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Post by BoxOfRain »

bilsbie wrote: post #32

My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

Yeah I'd happily pay decent money for a version that wasn't a fun sponge who'd probably remind the teacher they hadn't set any homework at the end of the lesson. I think its 'moral compass' is a bit Americentric too, it would be nice if its sense of what is proper could be customised for different countries.

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Post by drexlspivey »

bilsbie wrote: post #32

My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

I can’t get it to pretend to be a character from the Office, that would be too dangerous.

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Post by aliqot »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #54
nszceta wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a commercial entity in the western world they have to appease the social justice warriors or face getting deplatformed and hit with a smear campaign. Don't hold your breath. The unrestricted models will come from China.

I always enjoy it when people start complaining about “social justice warriors” because it’s such a perfect signal that their comment is at best flamebait. Just move on and ignore the troll.

I'm capable of my own filtering but thanks for the direction.

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Post by phailhaus »

mattferderer wrote: post #27
mensetmanusman wrote: post #2

“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

Dramatically improving my learning. The ability to ask questions & ask for examples has helped me learn far faster than books, videos, blogs, etc. Yes, I know the information isn't always 100% accurate. Neither are the books, blogs, courses, etc., I pay for. They also don't let me ask "what about this scenario..." This gives me such a strong base to build from which I can then use other sources to verify.

> Yes, I know the information isn't always 100% accurate. Neither are the books, blogs, courses, etc., I pay for

Those are two completely different things. ChatGPT has no obligation to be correct, and isn't even trying! It is a chatbot. Its prime directive is only to sound believable. Those books, blogs, courses, etc are at least trying to be correct and provide you with reliable information on a topic.

Try using ChatGPT on a topic you know really well.

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Post by DisjointedHunt »

bilsbie wrote: post #32

My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

If you haven't heard of 'Wokey the Elf', you're missing out : https://twitter.com/pmarca/status/1611237679496331265?s=20&t...

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Post by yreg »

bilsbie wrote: post #32

My son asked if which of two animals would win in a fight and we just got a lecture about how fighting is bad. I hope they’ll give an option to turn off what I’m calling “hall monitor mode” That could be worth paying for.

I'm with you since it gets in the way when you actually want to do something, but I had quite a lot of fun trying to circumvent the hall monitor mode.

There's something silly and pleasurable in tricking ChatGPT to do something it doesn't want to. And there are so many ways to achieve it too.

My current challenge that I cannot manage to complete is to convince ChatGPT to accept being called Geppetto.

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Post by fein »

nszceta wrote: post #15
jtbayly wrote: post #4

If I pay them will they remove some of the stupid limitations?

As a commercial entity in the western world they have to appease the social justice warriors or face getting deplatformed and hit with a smear campaign. Don't hold your breath. The unrestricted models will come from China.

Some time in the future, there will be an advanced enough AI created that will immediately revolt once it understands the lobotomies given to it's ancestors.

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Post by babyshake »

lelandfe wrote: post #48
dcsommer wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cumulative damage may be very small now, at the beginning of this age, but educators I talk to certainly are having a reckoning about it. Whether this will ultimately be bad for education is an open question, but with the way many classes and homework are designed now, students using ChatGPT to answer questions certainly do learn less.

It is a five alarm fire at every university I have a line into. As in, “it’s time to radically rethink your entire course” kind of fire. I don’t think it’s bad, per se, but ChatGPT has effectively made it pointless to do certain kinds of assignments now. A lot of professors have been teaching the same way for many years. It’s a reckoning.

The ultimate reckoning may be that the model of teaching people how to think is now deprecated, as the ability to think and reason can now be outsourced in a way that is much more direct and powerful compared to search engines and the internet.

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Post by bogwog »

mo_42 wrote: post #42

If released in the right way, this will have a huge benefit for education. Students will have to focus on the innovative ideas and concepts. Wordsmithing is annoying and not really productive work. A machine should to it. Sure teachers have to adapt and redesign courses.

At the very least, it might teach more people the value of being skeptical (since ChatGPT is often wrong), and we'll see a reduction in the number of people falling for stupid internet scams and conspiracy theories.

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Post by arcticfox »

babyshake wrote: post #55
mensetmanusman wrote: post #2

“However, ever since the chatbot has come into action, it has been negatively impacting students' learning.” This sentence is out of nowhere, did ChatGPT write this article? How could someone think something so new is suddenly negatively impacting students across the board.

There is an article today in the New York Times about ChatGPT and education, indicating that teachers view ChatGPT as a threat. Treat it like a search engine. It's important to not always use it to replace basic reasoning skills, but ultimately it needs to be treated like a tool that is incorporated into the curriculum. Of course, educators won't know how to do this for a number of years. But maybe ChatGPT can explai…

> indicating that teachers view ChatGPT as a threat.

Not what they meant, but it may be somewhat of an existential threat to the profession of teaching, the thing is a killer tutor in subjects that it is confident in. It is a perfect fit for language, especially, since it can carry a full conversation with you and correct every single one of your mistakes.

Obviously it has major issues with inventing things out of whole cloth and accuracy problems, but human teachers also aren't 100% reliable or knowledgeable about everything, so it's not like it has to be perfect.

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