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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by RosanaAnaDana » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:49 PM UTC

I'm on the Serval 76 with a 2070.

I don't really care if they are going team red again. I'll be trying a different manufacturer next time.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by smoldesu » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:49 PM UTC

0xCMP wrote: post #47

driverdan wrote: post #6

Still only 1920x1080. Come on, give us decent resolution screens already!

Agreed. 1080 is probably a good proportion, but I'd prefer 4k resolution at 200% than native 1080.

Interestingly, it looks like System76 has 4k options for their Intel machines. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come on their Ryzen line?

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by greyw » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:49 PM UTC

karmakaze wrote: post #34

The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. There have to be other LCD panel makers out there. Either their customers don't care and/or the company doesn't care to make a better laptop.

Interesting. For me the screen needs to be 16:9 or 16:10 to be even considered.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by inetknght » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:49 PM UTC

karmakaze wrote: post #34

The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. There have to be other LCD panel makers out there. Either their customers don't care and/or the company doesn't care to make a better laptop.

> The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page.

I like 16x9. What do you want instead?

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by RosanaAnaDana » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:50 PM UTC

quasarj wrote: post #45

God damn that is one ugly motherfucker. Why in the world is anyone still squeezing useless numpads onto laptops???

I hate the numpad on my system 76

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by trelane » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:51 PM UTC

azangru wrote: post #5

Ooh, it's actually starting to look rather nice, unless these are deceptively flattering angles. Which Clevo is this?

If you believe getting a laptop crom System76 and from Clevo will get you the same laptop, you're quite mistaken.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by trelane » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:53 PM UTC

umvi wrote: post #38

woile wrote: post #25

Is this a thin and lightweight laptop? I've been looking for a thin powerful AMD laptop with good Linux support

I have a System76 galp5. It's fairly thin and lightweight. I have mixed feelings about it. Linux support is good. But Windows support is pretty bad. All available drivers are here: https://github.com/system76/windows-drivers but even after installing everything in that repo listed under galp5, I still have a ton of issues including laptop not going to sleep when lid is closed, touchpad occasionally not working until…

I'd recommend using Windows under a VM, for this and myriad other reasons.

But it really underscores the point that Linux and Windows hardware really are different.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by kibwen » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:53 PM UTC

jesuscript wrote: post #7

What makes their stuff so great? I was customizing a gaming rig on their site the other day and it was wildly overpriced. I imagine you can match their specs for this laptop at cheaper prices.

Got a System76 laptop last year because I was sick of Windows and Mac nonsense (if my OS is going to suck, I want it to suck on my terms). The last time I tried desktop Linux was over ten years prior and I was prepared for a hell of obscure configuration and instability, but pleasantly it all Just Works. If you want a full-fledged Linux-based laptop that works out-of-the-box, I can recommend it.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by RosanaAnaDana » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:53 PM UTC

trelane wrote: post #57

jesuscript wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally sympathize with the driver compatibility concern, but what is the hassle of sticking in a linux usb drive to install? In general, how serious are these driver compatibility concerns for modern laptop hardware?

The hassle is the relentless debugging and glitchiness after slapping Linux on a Windows computer. System integration is a thing, and it's hopeless for a random user with zero access to firmware and chip/board documentation. Also, the support and open firmware.

System 76 has a ways to go in this regard.

My system 76 firm ware feels like abandon ware

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by jesuscript » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:54 PM UTC

myself248 wrote: post #56

jesuscript wrote: post #7

What makes their stuff so great? I was customizing a gaming rig on their site the other day and it was wildly overpriced. I imagine you can match their specs for this laptop at cheaper prices.

They spend a lot of that money supporting upstream contributions, maintaining a first-class Linux experience, providing real support, and otherwise putting their money where their mouth is. Compare to almost literally any other laptop, where uttering the word "linux" gets you nothing more than a voided warranty and a strong YOYOMF, and some fraction of customers will see value in System76's approach. Pixel for pixel,…

Guys, let's not go overboard with the hyperbole. I fully accept you guys wanting to support their PopOS endeavor, I totally get it. But let's not all act like we're all CEOs of megabillion dollar companies with boardroom meetings 24/7 that we can't be bothered to fiddle with some common computer issues.