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Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

#62

“ Wow is the web a weird application delivery mechanism where people are writing applications and then essentially compiling them down to binaries using WebAssembly, but weirdly shoehorning it into a hypertext framework” I thought this was an interesting quote from the article that relates back to something I’ve been thinking about as I’ve started to look at writing apps that run any where and realized that forces yo…

That distinction doesn't matter all that much today. The entire "hypertext framework" part of most single page apps is a generic 10-line index.html. The app bundle can be downloaded and cached indefinitely and work perfectly even offline. This specialized browser for web apps not sites would look like – Chrome.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

#63

“ Wow is the web a weird application delivery mechanism where people are writing applications and then essentially compiling them down to binaries using WebAssembly, but weirdly shoehorning it into a hypertext framework” I thought this was an interesting quote from the article that relates back to something I’ve been thinking about as I’ve started to look at writing apps that run any where and realized that forces yo…

I don’t know enough about non-web apps. What sucks about web apps? Speed is definitely a part of it, but I always saw that as a cost of interoperability.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

#64
It took me a while stumbling around their settings (maybe dark pattern alert) to figure out how to disable this for your team if you're an admin.

* Navigate to https://us06web.zoom.us/profile/setting

* Click on "Zoom Apps"

* Toggle the "Zoom Apps Quick Launch Button" sliders.

This took me about 30 min to figure out because all the emails from Zoom about how to 'manage' this was a link to their marketplace which is an upsell to add apps, not to disable it. HTH someone else.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The alternative, WebEx, was even crappier at the time.

That was not 'the' alternative. Skype, Teams (which subsumed it), Jitsi (which we used as a partially remote team prior to the pandemic and then inexplicably switched from to Zoom during), Discord was just starting to leak out of gamer-sphere, I think Slack already had group video calls, etc.

In California where I live it was. Skype was used by virtually no one. Teams and Jitsi were minor players. Google meet did not yet have traction. Most companies were using WebEx.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #36

Reminder: the zoom desktop app has a history of terrible security practices and should not be installed on any machine with data you intend to keep private; use the (hidden with dark patterns) web version instead and never give these people access to your computer.

Seconded. Use the web app, and when you're the one choosing the meeting technology choose more open alternatives like Jitsi (which doesn't even require an account for everyone).

Zoom also doesn't require an account for everyone.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was not 'the' alternative. Skype, Teams (which subsumed it), Jitsi (which we used as a partially remote team prior to the pandemic and then inexplicably switched from to Zoom during), Discord was just starting to leak out of gamer-sphere, I think Slack already had group video calls, etc.

In California where I live it was. Skype was used by virtually no one. Teams and Jitsi were minor players. Google meet did not yet have traction. Most companies were using WebEx.

So as you say, most were already using something non-Zoom, that's the up-thread point - where did Zoom come from.

Also I doubt Teams was a minor player, in usage maybe but not availability - it has a free tier I think but otherwise comes with O365, which is obviously not minor. Having it doesn't mean you use Teams, but it does mean that it ought to be an obvious choice if you suddenly, newly, have a need for a product like that, as so many companies did.

Re: Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now

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post #62

“ Wow is the web a weird application delivery mechanism where people are writing applications and then essentially compiling them down to binaries using WebAssembly, but weirdly shoehorning it into a hypertext framework” I thought this was an interesting quote from the article that relates back to something I’ve been thinking about as I’ve started to look at writing apps that run any where and realized that forces yo…

That distinction doesn't matter all that much today. The entire "hypertext framework" part of most single page apps is a generic 10-line index.html. The app bundle can be downloaded and cached indefinitely and work perfectly even offline. This specialized browser for web apps not sites would look like – Chrome.

>> The entire "hypertext framework" part of most single page apps is a generic 10-line index.html.

This statement seems rather misleading. There ultimately ends up being vastly more hypertext delivered to the browser than can be represented by a 10-line html file.

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