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Texas Records All Inmates Last Words Before Execution And Puts Them All Online

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Post by itisit »

dionidium wrote: post #9

Hard to reconcile some of these last words with the reality of their crimes: Juxtapose: I was so glad to leave this world a better, more positive place. It’s not an easy life with all the negativities. ... I hope I left everyone a plate of food full of happy memories, happiness and no sadness. [0] With this: > On September 11, 1999, Jones murdered his great aunt, 83-year-old Berthena Bryant, bludgeoning her to death…

Dare I say I find it rather comforting to know these people no longer walk the earth.

https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/death_row/dr_info/obryanronald.jp... https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/death_row/dr_info/garrettjohnny.j... https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/death_row/dr_info/wootenlarry.htm...

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Post by flatline »

dvt wrote: post #51
namdnay wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The crime was when he was deeply addicted and drugged out of his mind 22 years earlier. I don't find it shocking that he's had another life since. Killing him in 2021 just seems so... pointless

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> There is no justice in this world. No single punishment can correct an injustice, because what is past cannot be changed, and those to whom injustice was done remain with their loss. But even if justice were attained in some other world, for what was lost in this one, if in some other world those who had been injured had returned to them what they had lost here, that is not a return of their life’s fulfillment; it is only consolation. What is lost at a certain moment can never again be compensated, because what is lost was needed at the moment it disappeared.

Goce Smilevski

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Post by namdnay »

dvt wrote: post #51
namdnay wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The crime was when he was deeply addicted and drugged out of his mind 22 years earlier. I don't find it shocking that he's had another life since. Killing him in 2021 just seems so... pointless

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> Think if your daughter/son/mom/dad got slaughtered, do you think the pain would be less acute even two decades later?

Yeah it would definitely be less acute, still there every day, but less acute. Like most trauma.

Would killing the murderer in 2021 make me feel any better? To that question the answer is without a doubt "no".

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Post by itsmemattchung »

namdnay wrote: post #20
dionidium wrote: post #9

Hard to reconcile some of these last words with the reality of their crimes: Juxtapose: I was so glad to leave this world a better, more positive place. It’s not an easy life with all the negativities. ... I hope I left everyone a plate of food full of happy memories, happiness and no sadness. [0] With this: > On September 11, 1999, Jones murdered his great aunt, 83-year-old Berthena Bryant, bludgeoning her to death…

The crime was when he was deeply addicted and drugged out of his mind 22 years earlier. I don't find it shocking that he's had another life since. Killing him in 2021 just seems so... pointless

From Wikipedia:

Jones experienced 'brutal conditions' during his childhood, suffering neglect by his parents, sexual assault by his siblings, and extreme poverty.[7][4][8] His mother threatened him with a gun, and when he was seven years old his older siblings forced him to have sex with his stepsister.[8] He shot himself twice, once in the hand to placate gang members and later in the chest in a suicide attempt. He became addicted to drugs by his early teens

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Post by Natsu »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #21
dionidium wrote: post #9

Hard to reconcile some of these last words with the reality of their crimes: Juxtapose: I was so glad to leave this world a better, more positive place. It’s not an easy life with all the negativities. ... I hope I left everyone a plate of food full of happy memories, happiness and no sadness. [0] With this: > On September 11, 1999, Jones murdered his great aunt, 83-year-old Berthena Bryant, bludgeoning her to death…

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This actually goes the other way, if you believe the science: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0886260513504646

A lot of these people are in touch with prison ministries trying to get them to repent, so they probably weren't frequently meaningfully Christian before that on average. I don't have any way of knowing if these people were sincere or whether they'd have done the things they did all over again, but I don't really find it a bad thing if people realize that they've done bad and want to do what little they can to atone for it.

But yeah, I know it's not like an "I'm sorry" is going to bring mom back. And I say that as someone who heard those very words from the man who murdered mom.

So take the supposed repentance with a grain of salt, but I think it's at least better than the alternative where they never even acknowledge that they did something awful.

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

dvt wrote: post #51
namdnay wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The crime was when he was deeply addicted and drugged out of his mind 22 years earlier. I don't find it shocking that he's had another life since. Killing him in 2021 just seems so... pointless

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> We can debate capital punishment, of course, but calling it pointless frankly misses the point.

They're in the process of debating capital punishment. They didn't miss the point.

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Post by makeitdouble »

dvt wrote: post #51
namdnay wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The crime was when he was deeply addicted and drugged out of his mind 22 years earlier. I don't find it shocking that he's had another life since. Killing him in 2021 just seems so... pointless

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Capital punishment itself is a whole can of worm to discuss on a forum. But wouldn't killing inmate exactly be pointless for someone aruging for abolishing capital punishment ? That seems to be the core of the philosophy to me.

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Post by francisofascii »

dilap wrote: post #42

I was amused by the Texan racial categories: White, Black, Hispanic, Other Spot checking a handful of statements, it seems like most people executed found God, peace, and remorse at the end. Though at least one person never stopped proclaiming innocence: > I’m not the one that killed Christina, so whatever makes ya’ll happy. I wonder how many on the list were, in fact, innocent.

Here are two of the "possibly innocent" comments:

Carlos DeLuna #744

> I want to say I hold no grudges. I hate no one. I love my family. Tell everyone on death row to keep the faith and don’t give up.

David Spence #773

> I do. First of all, I want you to understand I speak the truth when I say I didn’t kill your kids. Honestly I have not killed anyone. I wish you could get the rage from your hearts and you could see the truth and get rid of the hatred.

source: https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/execute...

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