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Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

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Given how confident AI can be when it's incorrect, it feels like a bit of a problem to use AI with legal docs, since you can't really trust it to be correct (and the cost of being incorrect may be absurdly high).

This seems targeted at the low end of the market, where the alternative is simply to not read a ToS, EULA, etc.

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

#62

I work through a bunch of contract documents reissued with a just a few changes. I need a service that would identify what the changes are instead of me going through each document and reading it over again Or doing a comparison of previously issued documents with this one.

git diff --word-diff

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

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post #8

Given how confident AI can be when it's incorrect, it feels like a bit of a problem to use AI with legal docs, since you can't really trust it to be correct (and the cost of being incorrect may be absurdly high).

I’ve had ChatGPT tell me how to do something one way, and then give an example that omitted the specific syntax it had called out. It was only until I told it that the example didn’t reflect what it wrote that it basically said ‘oops! Here’s the corrected version’. I can’t even begin to imagine how poorly that could go in a legal context.

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

#64

I'm sorry, but in the nicest possible way, this is bullshit. Anybody who has been in business-roles that involve reviewing legal documents will tell you that. TL;DR three things: 1. The AI will NOT tell you if it is the right document for the context, only a lawyer will do that 2. The AI is unlikely to correctly analyse the document, clauses in a legal document have inter-relation with each other and with the general…

Whether you're using the right start point and picking the right optional pieces are definitely important. But for most kinds of agreements I see and advise on, there's nothing lawyers know that nobody else could know. What you need doesn't have to come from a lawyer, though it often does. Meanwhile, specifics of the deal and the broader context can also matter, sometime more than the abstractions legal forms tend to…

Lawyers don't have a monopoloy over business knowledge, they have a monopoly over providing legal services.

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

#65
The fact I have to upload to a server and my document will not be deleted for up to 24 hours, makes it a no go for most corporate users. Make this a standalone desktop app, with zero cloud dependency and it would be useful. This is very useful for a first pass through a legal doc, for example, to triage documents.

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

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post #8

Given how confident AI can be when it's incorrect, it feels like a bit of a problem to use AI with legal docs, since you can't really trust it to be correct (and the cost of being incorrect may be absurdly high).

This seems targeted at the low end of the market, where the alternative is simply to not read a ToS, EULA, etc.

I highly doubt the low end of the market will pay anything close to what this service wants to charge.

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

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post #8

Given how confident AI can be when it's incorrect, it feels like a bit of a problem to use AI with legal docs, since you can't really trust it to be correct (and the cost of being incorrect may be absurdly high).

This seems targeted at the low end of the market, where the alternative is simply to not read a ToS, EULA, etc.

Wouldn't no information be preferable to wrong information in most cases?

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

#68

Detangle gives you AI-generated summaries of your legal docs so you can understand what you're signing. Here's the YC SAFE, for example: https://detangle.ai/examples/yc-safe

> AI-generated summaries of your legal docs so you can understand what you're signing.

If you sell me a summary of a legal document, which was advertised as being useful to understand the legal document, that seems like just about the most straightforward case of legal advice I can imagine.

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

#69

Who is the target audience for something like this? I'm not sure anybody is going to pay to have Apple's ToS simplified before clicking "agree". On the other hand, if you are squinting at a contract that actually matters, I don't think a service like this gives sufficient understanding of what all that legalese would actually mean if shit hits the fan. For example, changing the applicable law in a contract can yield…

I’m a unionized employee who is currently waiting on finalized legal language for a new contract. A lot of my time will be spent reviewing a diff between the current agreement and the proposed agreement but it’s a 500 page document. I might give this product a try just to see what it spits out. I could see this being incredibly useful if it could write a plain language, non-biased, summary of changes.

I would see if it could interpret Oxford commas appropriately such as in: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/09/us/oxford-comma-maine.htm...

Re: Detangle: AI-generated summaries of legal docs

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post #8

Given how confident AI can be when it's incorrect, it feels like a bit of a problem to use AI with legal docs, since you can't really trust it to be correct (and the cost of being incorrect may be absurdly high).

That's why all the results come with an "AINAL" disclaimer.

Aah, yes. The old fine print switcheroo.

"Here's a tool for this highly specific purpose!†"

"†Tool not fit for this highly specific purpose."

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