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Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by esperent »

melony wrote: post #44
Mortiffer wrote: post #33

Is it just me or is this category of product exploding right now? Here, a list of similar tools that let you easily make a data model and generate some descent UI from it ? https://budibase.com/ https://baserow.io/ https://directus.io/ https://strapi.io/ https://nocodb.com/ https://keystonejs.com/ https://saltcorn.com/ https://www.plasmic.app/ https://www.appsmith.com/ https://www.jigdev.com/ https://www.sanity.io/ h…

There's also https://github.com/illacloud/illa-builder . Only Retool alternative I have found so far that's not AGPL encumbered or open core.

What's wrong with AGPL? It's copyleft, that's intentional so it can't really be considered a flaw. Are there other issues?

Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by gregwebs »

I am looking for a low-code system where I could easily add code for custom business logic (on the backend) when needed. Most of these systems seem well-suited to reading data, but don't seem suitable to writing it for non-trivial use cases.

pocketbase.io has some hooks for when data is saved, but currently only supports SQLite as a backend.

Directus seems to have some custom validation ability.

All these systems don't seem to have a way to add custom validation logic:

https://appwrite.io/docs/getting-started-for-web https://github.com/appsmithorg/appsmith https://docs.openblocks.dev/build-apps/event-handlers#compon... https://docs.budibase.com/docs/contextual-bindings https://docs.tooljet.com/docs/contributing-guide/setup/archi...

Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by aprdm »

swyx wrote: post #56
8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and here i am just sticking with MySQL for the past 20 years.. hasn't failed me yet

yes but there are billions of people out there who need a low code alternative

yes it's called pay someone to do it

Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by mdaniel »

petilon wrote: post #50
pomatic wrote: post #6

Looks very promising from the landing page... but the one click gitpod instance is localised in a language that I don't speak. (Mandarin? Thai?). Is there English language support available, and if so, how does one turn it on?

It is Simplified Chinese. English doesn't work.

Which means these "screenshot gifs" are almost certainly fake: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apitable/apitable/develop/...

Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by panda_2134 »

I simply don't know what they're doing with their marketing strategies. Do they really think sending promotion emails in the name of unrelated popular products (claiming they're tied to bitwarden in email subject) will work?

I received an email like [this](https://imgur.com/a/CVAhQvs) weeks ago. At first I was worried that bitwarden had leaked my email address, but then I found that the mail address that got the mail was not used for bitwarden registration. APITable seems to be using the name "bitwarden" in email subject to disguise as an email from a trustworthy product, so that receivers will open the email and see their ad.

Definitely a shameful way of self-promotion.

some discussion also on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/zeqpd6/is_bitwar...

Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by pbronez »

esperent wrote: post #60
darkteflon wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks interesting but it’s only open-core: loads of important features locked behind subscription pricing, plus you lose the ability to self-host: https://baserow.io/pricing

It's kind of hard to compare the long lists on mobile but I couldn't see any features removed when you self host. What did I miss?

Yeah not easy to see on mobile. Their 5/user/mo “premium” plan adds

Features: - XML and JSON export (vs just CSV) - Row comments - Row coloring - Public logo removal

Views: - Kanban - Survey - Calendar (WIP) - Gantt (WIP)

10k rows, 5Gb storage per group.

The “Advanced” $20/user/mo plan adds:

Feature: Role-based Permissions

Support 100k rows, 20GB storage per group

Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by melony »

esperent wrote: post #61
melony wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also https://github.com/illacloud/illa-builder . Only Retool alternative I have found so far that's not AGPL encumbered or open core.

What's wrong with AGPL? It's copyleft, that's intentional so it can't really be considered a flaw. Are there other issues?

You can't deployed the apps generated in any useful business capacity so it is not truly free except for a minority of personal users (or if you are in a country where IP rights are not easily enforced).

These platforms' primary customers and audience are enterprises and companies. The open source part is a red herring. It is not "free" to use in any sense for most organizations unless you are a non-profit with a majority of network infrastructure being under copyleft software. Don't be disingenuous, there is a very big difference for a web application builder and PaaS under rigorous viral copyleft vs e.g. a generic web server that will never be seen or utilized directly by users.

Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by chepy »

gkoberger wrote: post #22

I see some serious red flags on their homepage: * "Partners" just seem to be logo-hijacking potential hosting platforms (not actual partnerships) * Most of the links in the footer don't work * The testimonials use fake names + stock art * API keys checked into a public repo * Seems to be built by (or somehow associated with) this company (h https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/312911-47 ), but with no links back Pl…

These keys are revoked in earlier time. They are samples. The official team have remove secrets, tokens and keys.

Re: APITable: open-source Airtable alternative

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Post by Shindi »

gkoberger wrote: post #22

I see some serious red flags on their homepage: * "Partners" just seem to be logo-hijacking potential hosting platforms (not actual partnerships) * Most of the links in the footer don't work * The testimonials use fake names + stock art * API keys checked into a public repo * Seems to be built by (or somehow associated with) this company (h https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/312911-47 ), but with no links back Pl…

> * The testimonials use fake names + stock art

Wtf this is true. Reverse google image search the testimonials and you'll see the same. This blows my mind how sketchy it is. Just get your friends to put testimonials. If you have 3 users that you begged to use your product, get them to review. Fake reviews is beyond scummy.

That said, anyone know what template they use for their landing page? It's nice.

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