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Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

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Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

#61
I have written a person newsletter every month for 5 years now. I have people request to get on it. But, this as a business seems very odd to me.

Kind of the whole point is to keep it simple. I have 120 people that keep up with me from all different stages of my life, but why would I want a website. The whole point is it is personal and not advertised. Otherwise, I'd use a blog instead.

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've spent about ten minutes poking around that link and I'm still not at all sure what kind of tool Satellite either is or wants me to think of it as. Front page: > Satellite is an alternative space for writers and the beginning of an entirely new kind of network O...k? Alternative to what ? New how ? Presumably "alternative" here means the space is an alternative to other spaces (not a space for alternatives) and "…

I'm so close to the product after building it that it's not obvious to me which things are not obvious to other people seeing it for the first time, so thank you, this is very valuable feedback! > is it akin to blogging where individuals regularly put out articles Sort of. I think of being modeled after a text-based subreddit. > Scientific publishing that enforces a web of citations It's doesn't enforce citations, bu…

> The biggest difference is that every post on Satellite is digitally signed

that's not a very compelling difference for most people. Definitely not enough to get other people to sign up and follow you on it.

I've followed hundreds of people with no form of validation and I just don't care. It's good to know that the account claiming to be the president is actually the president's account (and other similar political or popular figures) but for the other 99% i really don't have to worry that it's someone else pretending to be them.

And then there's the fact that signing only proves that it's the same account holder posting not that they're who they claim to be.

The snapshot to IPFS is ... meh. Most people don't care about what they said on a microblog a year ago, and very few have a clue what IPFS is, or how they'd do anything with an IPFS backup.

The problem with a mastodon instance shutting down is only slightly about the lost data. It's much more about the lost account and connection to your followers and the people you follow.

Nothing you've said sounds bad. They're nifty things, but they're also not compelling enough to overcome the network effect on other networks and they're not features I can actively use that offer me something notable i can't get elsewhere.

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

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post #6

This is what I liked about the open blogosphere of 2000 to 2008. Whereas something like Twitter is optimized for the fast-take and the brutal one-liner, blogs allowed actual conversations. You could write something serious, develop the idea, and maybe some other people would engage with it, also at a serious level. But then the walled-gardens began to gain ground (Facebook, Twitter, and then later Instagram) and the…

To my mind, the blogosphere had a lot to do with political polarization. Once you added a comment widget to a blog it was easy to build a following of very devoted fans who would argue on the blogger's behalf, amplify them diligently etc. Certainly blogs could foster thoughtful discourse with a wide variety of inputs, but they were just as likely to foster combative tribalism. One interesting example of a blog that f…

> When Twitter, MySpace, and FaceBook came along, they were initially considered 'microblogs' that had the potential to democratize personal publishing (no need for complicated mechanics) and foster better discourse by getting people out of silos onto a common platform where there would be a greater diversity of opinion.

Most people take extreme personal offense at the concept of diversity of opinion. A common platform is always, without exception, a way to unify opinions, not diversify them.

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

#64

Not sure if it's just age, or if it's truly a sign of times, but many of the friends I kept up with on social media -- and who are no longer active on social media (none of us are on Facebook) -- are nearly impossible to keep up with in real life either. It feels like digital communication has been completely abandoned by my social cohorts. And with no one wanting to talk on the phone... or message via texts, it's ha…

Sorry to be brutal, but this sounds like they weren't truly friends. I and many of my friends have given up on social media, and now have to make a conscious effort to ring each other and arrange dinners, activities, etc. If your "friends" aren't willing to do this... find better friends.

Sorry to be brutal...

Yeah, your post seems mean-spirited and unhelpful.

I keep up as well as I can with a wide variety of people and some portion of people fall off the map. I keep up enough to know that many of them are in a spiral of isolation and despair that characterizes the present era. Sure, some might not have valued me personally but many "just can't" keep up with friendships generally and suffer from this.

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

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post #6

This is what I liked about the open blogosphere of 2000 to 2008. Whereas something like Twitter is optimized for the fast-take and the brutal one-liner, blogs allowed actual conversations. You could write something serious, develop the idea, and maybe some other people would engage with it, also at a serious level. But then the walled-gardens began to gain ground (Facebook, Twitter, and then later Instagram) and the…

disclaimer: self-promotion This is the exact reason I started working on Satellite. To be a platform where I could have a blog that talked to other blogs. If you have feedback I'd love to hear it. https://satellite.earth/

It's interesting. It'll be interesting to see how you address moderation and boosting. Since your federation page is "coming soon" and your handles appear to be globally unique, it's unclear to me who the moderators are and how you will deal with spam (defined as content that I, as a user, don't want).

And perhaps consider "bootstrapping" with external content. Take a place where content is legal to reproduce and select the stuff that reflects what you want your network to be, then mirroring it. Give external authors from your content source separate identities on your system; and tag the content with the original source. StackOverflow allows this, for example (don't do this as a crappy SEO technique; rather do it in such a way where passers-by can see the kind of content you want to exist on the site).

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

#66

Does anyone else still receive round robin letters? Multi page letters from friends or family that were the same and sent to everyone at this time of year. I remember one person's in particular that was basically just a recap of this year's misery including their various health problems etc. It would be read aloud at the Christmas dinner table while the family would all giggle at their terrible experiences. My wife's…

People used to do them all the time for Christmas, but then got lazy and started sending just a card.

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

#67

Not sure if it's just age, or if it's truly a sign of times, but many of the friends I kept up with on social media -- and who are no longer active on social media (none of us are on Facebook) -- are nearly impossible to keep up with in real life either. It feels like digital communication has been completely abandoned by my social cohorts. And with no one wanting to talk on the phone... or message via texts, it's ha…

I've been also thinking a lot that why it's so fricking hard nowadays to make phone calls to even people you think are your closest friends. It's like you need to schedule a time slot and then make the effort. What happened to "just called you to ask what's up"?

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

#68
post #8

Hmmm, I like this idea. It's more or less rebranding good ol' blogs that do the same thing (more or less) as "Personal Newsletters" which I'd imagine have a wider appeal and may get wider adoption/traction? Telling people "I have a blog" or "I have a substack" or any of the other many alternatives, doesn't sound quite as nice as "I have a personal newsletter". And I've been telling people I have a blog since the 90s!

But Substack is a newsletter service?

Would there be need for a more personal take on Substack? Newsletter service which works on top of email - nothing gets posted to internet. And you could only invite people to subscribe your newsletter. Maybe some subgroups for your subscribers to manage whom you send your most personal thoughts.

Edit: Didn't read the original post with my both eyes. Seems that's describing a service which is quite close to what I had in mind.

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before 2000, there were the "shared spaces" of mailing lists. I think of Winer the same way you probably think of Zuck.

One of the problems I recall with such mailing-list-based discussion groups was that participants had an expectation that the discussions would stay in the group, and that members wouldn't dump such semi-private conversations (which might have included various controversial takes, etc.) onto the larger web - but in many cases, that did happen, with resulting blowback for individuals whose comments were taken out of c…

There are indeed private mailing lists, but (for obvious reasons) they're not very discoverable.

Re: Personal newsletters as a calmer alternative to social networks

#70
I love the idea in principle but, this is a tough sell. As much as I want to delete traditional social network apps (Facebook, Instagram, etc) from my device, I simply don't see that happening. Most people willing to pay $8 / month will want something out of it and as a result, it will be used mostly by professionals and content writers (as evidenced by the showcase in the home page). IMO, this is better suited to compete with public social networks like Twitter and LinkedIn. I wouldn't use it as an alternative to Facebook or Instagram, which IMO is far more detrimental to society than Twitter or LinkedIn. In an ideal world, I would like my friends and family to get off of FB and IG to use something like this but, I don't see that happening.
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