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Re: How to avoid another world war

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Post by AnimalMuppet » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 12:10 AM UTC

darthrupert wrote: post #39

vlovich123 wrote: post #5

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With Russia‘s nukes, it seems unlikely Ukraine will invade Russia. It’s possible they wouldn’t be so cautious of Russia if it had disarmed its nuclear capabilities. EDIT: fixed the multiple wording mistakes that made the statement nonsense from start to finish.

By Russia's fucked up interpretation of reality, Ukraine has already invaded Russia and is currently occupying two of its cities. Or did you mean they would invade real Russian territory, like Moscow? Why would they do that?

They might, for instance, get tired of Russia sending missiles at Ukraine, and decide to go after the launch sites.

Re: How to avoid another world war

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Post by nine_k » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 12:48 AM UTC

psychphysic wrote: post #8

I rarely agree with Kissinger but he's right as far as I can see. I'd be the first to deride Russia's military effectiveness. But consider that the vast majority of the world is against them largely on every single front. And you see why they've earned their reputation as a super power. Russia is big with plenty of fossils. They could ruin the world simply by continuing to use their fossil fuels without regard to cli…

It's like asking for peace in Europe in 1939. I'm afraid it's a bit late; no attempts to pacify would bring any sustained peace. They will only bring about a Russia more prepared to fight a bigger war :(

«I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.»

This is incredibly depressing, but the faster we pass the phases of denial, anger, bargaining, and depression, turn towards acceptance, and prepare for more and harder fighting, the higher are our chances to win.

Re: How to avoid another world war

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Post by darthrupert » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 5:02 AM UTC

psychphysic wrote: post #57

darthrupert wrote: post #43

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Do we really need to think of Russia as being a country of utter regressed animals who are capable of nothing but the worst ideas? Are they really comic book evil?

No not at all. Russians are quite lovely. Americans aren't monsters despite their monstrous acts in Korea and Vietnam. Super powers gonna super power and mostly that means stomp all over unfortunate people.

In addition to being nice, Russians should grow a spine. The American people of 70s were massively better than current Russians: they stopped the Vietnam War by protesting against it.

Where are the massive Russian peotests?

Re: How to avoid another world war

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Post by rlanday » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 10:01 PM UTC

hulitu wrote: post #4

> How to avoid another world war by Henry Kissinger tells the guy not known for avoiding wars.

To be fair, I don’t think he’s been responsible for any world wars.

Re: How to avoid another world war

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Post by psychphysic » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 1:11 PM UTC

darthrupert wrote: post #63

psychphysic wrote: post #57

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No not at all. Russians are quite lovely. Americans aren't monsters despite their monstrous acts in Korea and Vietnam. Super powers gonna super power and mostly that means stomp all over unfortunate people.

In addition to being nice, Russians should grow a spine. The American people of 70s were massively better than current Russians: they stopped the Vietnam War by protesting against it. Where are the massive Russian peotests?

Vietnam war lasted 10 years.

Let's see if Russians might turn things around before the Americans did!

I don't expect so but it's in part because by shunning the Russia people we've weakened their ability to resist their government. It's ridiculous that the first response from social media was to block Russia's and now be a conduit for the average Russia to see the truth about the war.

Re: How to avoid another world war

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Post by neoromantique » Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 11:06 AM UTC

darthrupert wrote: post #63

psychphysic wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No not at all. Russians are quite lovely. Americans aren't monsters despite their monstrous acts in Korea and Vietnam. Super powers gonna super power and mostly that means stomp all over unfortunate people.

In addition to being nice, Russians should grow a spine. The American people of 70s were massively better than current Russians: they stopped the Vietnam War by protesting against it. Where are the massive Russian peotests?

The American people of 70s didn't face violence, torture, and over a decade of prison for protesting.

It is not a fair comparison, the ship has long sailed for Russian protest movement, when rest of the world was turning the blind eye for the past decade.