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Re: IRS accidentally releases taxpayers’ private data again

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Post by AmericanChopper »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #45
AmericanChopper wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say I find government corruption to be more concerning than government incompetence. For the same reason that I would find a crime committed with intent to be more concerning than a crime committed with negligence. Neither are unconcerning though.

Corruption is a very serious allegation and typically involves some form of quid-pro-quo (direct or indirect, tangible or non-tangible). There are contexts it likely applies, such as lobbyists and PACs getting favorable laws passed, wealthy donors getting ambassadorships, etc, but I can’t see how it applies in this case. Are you suggesting that everyone involved from attorney generals to congressmen, senators, federa…

Knowingly and illegally violating somebody’s rights in order to enact some alternative agenda is very obviously corruption, and anybody who knowingly participated in it knowingly participated in corruption. Bribes and paying for influence aren’t the only form of corruption. Any abuse of power is corrupt.

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Post by macinjosh »

sokoloff wrote: post #40
yucky wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My agreement is with the IRS, not Accenture. The IRS is 100% responsible.

I agree with your assessment of responsibility, but it’s not clear the extent that your obligation to the IRS is even an “agreement”.

Have you not been told the Good News of The Social Contract? /s

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Post by hkxer »

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #37
ipsum2 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't Accenture offshore a lot of its work to India and other third-world countries? So the Accenture engineer probably gets paid a lot less than you. Edit: According to Wikipedia, yes: > In 2015, the company had about 150,000 employees in India,[31] 48,000 in the US,[32] and 50,000 in the Philippines.[33] Edit2: s/outsource/offshore, thanks. What I intended was: companies hire Accenture to outsource their developm…

> So the Accenture engineer probably gets paid a lot less than you. Given that roughly 1/3 of Accenture employees are in the US, is there any evidence for you to believe that this was someone outside the US?

Using your own stat, it is objectively probable (66% chance) that this was someone outside the US.

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Post by andreareina »

systemvoltage wrote: post #22
toomuchtodo wrote: post #2

Accenture is the contractor responsible.

IMO the resposibility is entirely on IRS. They chose the contractor, they wrote the legal terms and conditions, they vetted them out and they presumably did the due diligence for security.

That the buck stops with the IRS (agree with you there) doesn't absolve Accenture of its responsibility to the IRS.

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Post by theCrowing »

ipsum2 wrote: post #17
dossy wrote: post #6

> "The agency is reconsidering its relationship with the contractor Accenture on this project, according to a person familiar." Any time I start to feel that Impostor Syndrome creeping in, I need to remind myself that there's someone who's working at Accenture probably earning 2x or 3x what I am, who gets to fuck up big not once but _twice_ doing the same wrong thing.

Doesn't Accenture offshore a lot of its work to India and other third-world countries? So the Accenture engineer probably gets paid a lot less than you. Edit: According to Wikipedia, yes: > In 2015, the company had about 150,000 employees in India,[31] 48,000 in the US,[32] and 50,000 in the Philippines.[33] Edit2: s/outsource/offshore, thanks. What I intended was: companies hire Accenture to outsource their developm…

In the EU they did near-shoring to Ukraine... it's a shit show.

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Post by autoexec »

godelski wrote: post #52

What a hostile website. I land on the page, a second goes by and then I get a flashing screen that redirects me... to the same page. A few more seconds go by and then I see a "validating credentials" loading message and again just get redirected to the same page. I'm sure my privacy plugins have something to do with this but come on, why do we need to do all this redirecting for just a web article? This could essenti…

You're not blocking enough. The site actually manages to display text even with JS disabled which is more than I can for some others.

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

hkxer wrote: post #63
cscurmudgeon wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So the Accenture engineer probably gets paid a lot less than you. Given that roughly 1/3 of Accenture employees are in the US, is there any evidence for you to believe that this was someone outside the US?

Using your own stat, it is objectively probable (66% chance) that this was someone outside the US.

That is not my stat. It was provided by the OP.

1. How much of that split is between engineers and non engineers?

2. Outside the US can also imply other high cost regions like London.

All I am asking is evidence this was a low paid non-US engineer that caused this not assumptions rooted in bigotry.

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