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Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by p-e-w »

locofocos wrote: post #16

I'm a happy user of Atom as my daily driver for basic note taking and scratch pads. Even though it's being sunset, I look forward to using it for years to come. Perhaps it will have a good fork one day, but honestly it works great as-is. Sometimes software reaches a point where it just works, and you appreciate not having a team that wants to change everything.

> Even though it's being sunset, I look forward to using it for years to come.

I'd be very, very careful with that. My understanding is that Atom will no longer receive any updates, including security updates. Atom has had a remote code execution vulnerability in the past that could be triggered by simply opening a package readme IIRC.

Atom is deeply integrated with the browser/Node.js ecosystem, and as such using a stale version sounds potentially very dangerous. I sincerely wish it was different, and that we could just continue using unmaintained applications as long as they "work", but that is sadly not the state of software today.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by bandrami »

paxys wrote: post #4

Pour one out. While Atom itself was overtaken by a better editor, its legacy lives on in the form of "Atom Shell" aka Electron (for better or worse).

> "Atom Shell" aka Electron

I'm horribly embarrassed that I only just "got" that joke now

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by kylebarron »

ddhhyy wrote: post #21

I think the Atom editor + Hydrogen plugin for running interactive Python sessions inline with the code is still unmatched by anything available in VS Code. This setup is what I migrated to when I ditched Matlab for the "scientific Python" stack, and I'm still here. Multiple concurrent kernels, the ability to connect any .py file to any running kernel, sharing variables and imports across multple .py files, inline mat…

I completely agree. For the last couple years I've used VSCode for everything _except_ interactive Python development because Atom + Hydrogen is just too good.

I'm giving VS Code + its Jupyter extension a shot for now. It's significantly worse than Hydrogen, but I tried to make it a little less bad with a quick extension to auto-infer code blocks [0].

[0]: https://github.com/kylebarron/vscode-jupyter-python

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by Semaphor »

rodw wrote: post #52
skyfaller wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or another way to phrase it is that the experience sucks equally on all platforms, so you might as well switch to Linux.

Everyone believes Electron "sucks" because it's mainly the apps that suck that are noticeably built with Electron. It's the "when you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" phenomenon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VofkquwmT40&t=29s >

When almost every app sucks, I feel like it’s at least partially a platform issue.

(Disclaimer: I actually have RAM to spare, in constrained environments the situation might be different)

VS Code is pretty much the only larger electron app I think is very well done. Discord is pretty good, but then it starts going downhill. MS Teams is mostly responsive, bottom-of-the-barrel apps like postman feel like you are on a thin client remoting over a slow internet connection. And most electron apps sit between Teams and Postman.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by samtho »

paxys wrote: post #4

Pour one out. While Atom itself was overtaken by a better editor, its legacy lives on in the form of "Atom Shell" aka Electron (for better or worse).

Just an aside that had nothing to do with Atom itself, but I didn’t get into Electron while it was still called “Atom Shell” because the name was doing it a bit of a disservice. For some reason, by brain put it into a category of software more akin to bash/zsh and never questioned it again.

Did anyone else experience the something similar?

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by Semaphor »

bandrami wrote: post #62
paxys wrote: post #4

Pour one out. While Atom itself was overtaken by a better editor, its legacy lives on in the form of "Atom Shell" aka Electron (for better or worse).

> "Atom Shell" aka Electron I'm horribly embarrassed that I only just "got" that joke now

Oh wow, and for me, it required your comment. Luckily, I’m not easily embarrassed ;)
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