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British teenage designer of Summly app hits jackpot

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Re: British teenage designer of Summly app hits jackpot

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Any insight into the tech this is using?

"Summly’s patent pending technology has been evaluated by MIT Researchers and proven state-of-the-art. We utilise ontological detection and machine learning techniques in our summarisation processes. Our core technology is language independent and produces great results out of the box for any language. In addition, specific optimisations have been made for English, French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, German, Swedish, Ma…

It says that, but to what extend is it the truth? I can put that on my website too if my friend from MIT tells me something I did is state-of-the-art just from hearing me describe it (aka not digging into the code etc).

I'm not saying it isn't true, but from the results the app gives on non demo cases and from the discussion in this thread i'm not sure?

Re: British teenage designer of Summly app hits jackpot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get off your PC horse. Reality based generalization is not "stereotyping" (and all stereotyping is not false). Really, we people from other parts of the world --the victims of stereotypes ourselves-- are incredibly tired of all this "guilt" and "tiptoeing around issues" mentality going on from that side of the Atlantic. As if anyone's feelings will be hurt if somebody calls the typical teenager impolite or un-motivat…

It's not a reality based generalization though, it's unfounded nonsense - like the thought that black people can jump really high compared to white people, you can die if you leave a fan on while you sleep, or that you can identify criminals by measuring their skulls. All of these beliefs have been shared by millions of people at some time, but that does not make them true and certainly does not make them suitable fo…

"""It's not a reality based generalization though, it's unfounded nonsense - like the thought that black people can jump really high compared to white people, you can die if you leave a fan on while you sleep, or that you can identify criminals by measuring their skulls."""

"Completely unfounded nonsense", how? Because, people just don't know enough teenagers to generalize that they aren't in general that motivated?

He is comparing the general teenager with a 16 guy who learned programming on his own, built an app people want to use in hundreds of thousands, and even got an investment for it. It's only reasonable to deem him quite apart from the average teenager in the motivation department. And judging from the success of GTD methodologies and such crap, even from the average adult.

"""All of these beliefs have been shared by millions of people at some time, but that does not make them true and certainly does not make them suitable for reprinting as implied fact by a state-backed, high quality, supposedly objective news organization."""

The reporting that a kid that managed SUCH AND SUCH is more motivated than the average kid, is nothing like Lombroso's theory or some urban legend about dying when sleeping with a fan on. It's a simple observation and statement of fact.

As for the report on the extra politeness of the kid --compared to the average kid--, do you really believe that a reporter cannot spot a polite kid when he sees one? Or, do you think that he hasn't seen enough kids in his life to be able to discern any difference in politeness levels?

(Note: I've worked as an teacher for a spell, and I know that there are kids that are far more motivated than the average kid, and kids far more polite than the average kid. I also know one when I see one).

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"D'Aloisio is by no means a typical teenager - he is polite, highly motivated and enthusiastic." Wow, wonder how many other groups they'd be able to get away with stereotyping like that. "D'Aloisio is by no means a typical (woman|Mexican|black person|obese person) - he is polite, highly motivated and enthusiastic." Ouch. Makes the BBC sound out of touch, considering that most teenagers are under a historically unprec…

A group whose members are part of it only for a short period of their lives; and who are clearly not being discriminated by society in any meaningful way, shape or form.

Re: British teenage designer of Summly app hits jackpot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You (and the grandparent) are misapplying the American conception of class (money) to a Briton. It's about birth and schooling here - money is irrelevant. The boy seems likely to be middle class. (Upper class means a member of the aristocracy in the UK, FWIW).

That's not quite accurate. There are several definitions of the upper class. No one said he was a royal or a lord. From the financial standpoint, he is upper class alright, even if the Eton guys would snub him.

Yes, there are "several definitions" (as there are with most terms), but I'm talking about the normal and popular one - the one you'll find in contemporary and historical literature and on Wikipedia, etc. Here's wikipedia:

> The British "upper class" is statistically very small and consists of the peerage, gentry, and hereditary landowners. These people were traditionally the wealthiest in the land having inherited money and position. The majority of aristocratic families originated in the merchant class, and were ennobled between the 14th and 19th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_structure_of_Britain#Upp...

Just as an aside - public schools like Eton were originally exclusively for the middle class (aristocrat children would have been privately tutored) and though since 1900 they have expanded in class terms to accommodate the Upper Classes (obviously including the Royal Family) there's no way a middle class person would feel out of place there.

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