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Google Will Pay Mozilla Almost $300M Per Year in Search Deal

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Re: Google Will Pay Mozilla Almost $300M Per Year in Search Deal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"""99% of FF users would just switch to Google as soon as they install it. I assume you can back that up somehow? Most evidence I've seen indicates that the majority of people don't change defaults."""" Then the evidence you've seen is wrong. If people "don't change defaults" how come they switched to FF in the first place, which is not the default browser on Windows, but is (or rather, was until it lost to Chrome) a…

So is your argument that Google should have paid nothing to be the default search engine, because people will switch, or is it that $300 million is an appropriate about for the 1% that won't change the default? (Btw, why do you quote like that? HN docs on formatting are here: http://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc )

"""So is your argument that Google should have paid nothing to be the default search engine, because people will switch, or is it that $300 million is an appropriate about for the 1% that won't change the default?"""

No, "my argument" was on the topic of the comment I specifically responded to.

You know, where you said that by getting the FF default search && making your own search engine, you'll "profit". To which I responded something akin to: "bollocks --even if you do that, FF users will just switch search engine back to Google".

It wasn't that hard to follow, check it again.

"""(Btw, why do you quote like that? HN docs on formatting are here: http://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc)

Ever noticed how the "HN docs on formatting" say NOTHING about quoting?

"Italics", which you use, is not for quoting is for emphasis. Other people use your method, other people use ">", I use mine.

Re: Google Will Pay Mozilla Almost $300M Per Year in Search Deal

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post #56

So the "OMG! Mozilla is dead without the Google deal" stories weren't just wrong they were backwards . The real story was "OMG! There's a bidding war over Mozilla's new search deal that will get them a lot more money." It is enough to make you wonder whether a player in those negotiations started the previous rumor in the first place (presumably as leverage). The timing certainly fits.

There are still people convinced that the glass has a hole in it.

Re: Google Will Pay Mozilla Almost $300M Per Year in Search Deal

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What's actually being paid for, here? It could be the case that having Google as the default in Firefox will pay for itself through advertising. Anyone have any feel for how likely that is? If it isn't, is it an attempt to buy good will? Trying to gain some leverage over Mozilla when it comes to taking sides in the standards war? Or just the idea that any time Firefox gains a user is a time that Safari or IE isn't ga…

It could be the case that having Google as the default in Firefox will pay for itself through advertising. Of course it will, easily (Seriously - people should understand that Google's business is search (and advertising), and they want to commoditize its complements - browsers and phones with browsers on them). Google does roughly 1 billion searches a day[1], and makes conservatively $0.08 per search[2]. Firefox has…

what they are paying for is the portion of users who wouldn't use Google search if it wasn't the default.

So more like 30-40% of the 25% Firefox market share.

Still very worthwhile for Google, and explains why Firefox held out for more.

Re: Google Will Pay Mozilla Almost $300M Per Year in Search Deal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true. Chrome: http://blog.chromium.org/2011/01/html-video-codec-support-in... Opera: See an opinion piece at http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2011/01/13/openness

Chrome still supports H.264 and and there are no indications that Google is planning to change that in the near future.

Isn't the indication that Google said it will remove H.264? Have you seen Google go back on that statement?
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