Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

d00k.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

61–70 of 81 posts

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#61

Post by rzzzt »

macrolime wrote: post #60
fzliu wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your music recommendation system open source? Would be down to check it out and learn a thing or two from it. On the topic of vector search, I'm fairly certain that Spotify still uses Annoy ( https://github.com/spotify/annoy ). Like Faiss, it's a great library but not quite a database, which would ideally have features like replication ( https://milvus.io/docs/replica.md ), caching, and access control, to name a f…

No. I released part of it as open source, but that was just a script to import Discogs to an SQL database. It was never really more than a proof of concept and I think it would be quite difficult to get the code running now. At the time one of the big issues I had was that I had no idea how to find the closest vector of a vector without it going like really slow. I was also experimenting with finding a popularity sco…

The Echo Nest published a song metadata collection 11 years ago: http://millionsongdataset.com/

They were acquired by Spotify in 2014 and according to announcements at the time, the intention was to enhance their recommendation/discovery system with the deeper insight they got into songs as a result (Infinite Gangnam Style, anyone?), but I don't know what came out of it.

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#62

Post by adammarples »

pavlov wrote: post #25
wintermutestwin wrote: post #21

There is no way in hell that I am giving up on having instant access to 99.9% of all music, but I will say that Apple Music is infuriating in many ways. The desktop application is widely known to be crap, and, to the point of the article, my biggest frustration with the phone app is that 3 out of 5 icons along the bottom are dedicated to discovery. I don't want Apple to help me find music (that they likely get kick b…

It is a sad, terrible irony that Apple whose resurgence began when they acquired the best desktop framework from NeXT and further developed it into a revolutionary mobile one, is now a company that’s famous for how bad their new desktop apps are (Music, new macOS Settings, everything made with Catalyst…)

I dunno if you can really call Apple famous for how bad the very recently updated macos settings app is. They were pretty famous before that and I don't think it's quite eclipsed them yet but I could be wrong.

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#63

Post by ei8ths »

I've always liked how spotify's mobile app and web/desktop app work together. I get on Spotify here and there (unpaid) to see if things have improved over the years, not much has changed...

I used to do the ipod thing with winamp back in napster days, then i kept a personal library just of cds i've bought, then i tried the subsonic thing i really liked dsub app for android. It was great but i really dont want to do server stuff at home...metadata on discs and bringing it over to digital audio, its never perfect and bugs me to where i'll spend hours cleaning it up...

I've been using Youtube music/Google music for many years, abandoned my digital files and i find a lot of my music on youtube and recommendations on YTM. I usually pick the bands im into and they have similar artists and drill down that way, im not a huge fan of auto discovery playlists.

YTM are going to be raising their rates, i pay for family premium, $15 -> $22/mo in april for me. So now im looking at alternatives and trying to avoid running a server and/or managing files. I think YTM has more music because of the youtube side but the client side UI sucks.

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#64

Post by marcellus23 »

pavlov wrote: post #25
wintermutestwin wrote: post #21

There is no way in hell that I am giving up on having instant access to 99.9% of all music, but I will say that Apple Music is infuriating in many ways. The desktop application is widely known to be crap, and, to the point of the article, my biggest frustration with the phone app is that 3 out of 5 icons along the bottom are dedicated to discovery. I don't want Apple to help me find music (that they likely get kick b…

It is a sad, terrible irony that Apple whose resurgence began when they acquired the best desktop framework from NeXT and further developed it into a revolutionary mobile one, is now a company that’s famous for how bad their new desktop apps are (Music, new macOS Settings, everything made with Catalyst…)

Music is not any worse than iTunes was. And the new Settings app being bad is not exactly consensus — IMO the redesign was much-needed and well executed.

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#65

Post by rcarmo »

I’ve never felt much of an allure for music streaming services. They’re great for skimming, but pretty useless for anything non-mainstream, so I’ve been slowly amassing a ripped CD library for decades, and use Plex (and the pretty amazing PlexAmp) to get at it.

My only gripe with Plex is that the only voice assistant that interacts with it is Alexa, and it requires me to have my Plex server shared over the Internet. On the other hand, that’s been handy a couple of times when I was out and about and wanted to stream a couple of songs (which it did as well as Spotify).

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#66

Post by nickthegreek »

marcellus23 wrote: post #64
pavlov wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a sad, terrible irony that Apple whose resurgence began when they acquired the best desktop framework from NeXT and further developed it into a revolutionary mobile one, is now a company that’s famous for how bad their new desktop apps are (Music, new macOS Settings, everything made with Catalyst…)

Music is not any worse than iTunes was. And the new Settings app being bad is not exactly consensus — IMO the redesign was much-needed and well executed.

iTunes is a pretty low bar to beat! I would generalize that apple has never gotten music right except for the iPod with that sweeet jog dial.

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#67

Post by nickthegreek »

hxugufjfjf wrote: post #3

I genuinly want to stop giving Spotify my money because of the increasingly horrible user experience. But the sheer investment I have there in the form of more than ten year's worth of curated lists and folders makes it damn near impossible to leave without abandoning pretty much my entire "music library" which it has become at this point.

There are tools you can use to migrate your playlists to another service.

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#68

Post by thepuppet33r »

disposition2 wrote: post #43

I’ve used streaming services for almost a decade now and nothing has ever come close to Rdio. I use YouTube Music today as its family plan is reasonably priced (although the price is increasing next year) and it includes YouTube Premium…but I have found with it (and every other service I’ve tried) that I have to use other tools for actual music discovery. I tried Spotify for a while but the promotion of Podcasts caus…

You're the only other person I've met online who knows of RDIO. I was an early adopter and I loved that service like it was my own child. I was HEARTBROKEN when it was shuttered.

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#69

Post by thepuppet33r »

s3000 wrote: post #58
disposition2 wrote: post #43

I’ve used streaming services for almost a decade now and nothing has ever come close to Rdio. I use YouTube Music today as its family plan is reasonably priced (although the price is increasing next year) and it includes YouTube Premium…but I have found with it (and every other service I’ve tried) that I have to use other tools for actual music discovery. I tried Spotify for a while but the promotion of Podcasts caus…

What's your opinion of https://digs.fm ? It's built by a HN user: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32551862 Which features made rdio so good?

Maybe it's just nostalgia, but it had a way of having a broad collection while still allowing you to discover new acts. It just... worked, seamlessly, and it didn't have any of the flashiness of Spotify. I like Spotify, but RDIO will always have a special place in my heart.

Re: Leaving Spotify for freer pastures

#70

Post by xenospn »

rcarmo wrote: post #65

I’ve never felt much of an allure for music streaming services. They’re great for skimming, but pretty useless for anything non-mainstream, so I’ve been slowly amassing a ripped CD library for decades, and use Plex (and the pretty amazing PlexAmp) to get at it. My only gripe with Plex is that the only voice assistant that interacts with it is Alexa, and it requires me to have my Plex server shared over the Internet.…

I’ve been using Apple Music for my very niche taste (scandinsvian black metal) and it works great.
Post reply on HN