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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by ravar »

kalkin wrote: post #53
phpisthebest wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am increasingly shocked that how mainstream traditional mainstreet political views are now viewed as "alt-right" online by the perpetual online class If Elon is alt-right then 85% of the US population is "alt-right"

Elon has interacted frequently and positively on Twitter in the last few weeks with alt-right figures like Ian Miles Cheong and Andy Ngo, e.g. agreeing that the slogan "hands up, don't shoot" is somehow a "lie", and retweeted a weird homophobic conspiracy theory about Paul Pelosi almost immediately after completing the acquisition. I don't think there was good (public) reason to believe these were his politics a year…

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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by braingenious »

branon wrote: post #15

Nice. I've always been a firm believer that you haven't _really_ left a platform unless you first make a blog post loudly proclaiming that you're _definitely leaving_ but this guy takes it a few steps further by: - keeping his account active, poised to return immediately (but still, definitely leaving) - maybe posting on Twitter occasionally to point people to ongoing resources (but still, definitely leaving) - highl…

> keeping his account active

Considering how easy it is to impersonate people on twitter, this makes sense.

> If Elon's alt-right, you're alt-left

This is a hilariously nonsensical sentence.

“If you don’t like my hero’s politics, there is only one set of politics that you could have! There are only people that love his posts and antifa super soldiers high on estrogen blockers plotting to take down capitalism with their polycule!”

Buddy do you remember the other day when he posted a baseless alt-right conspiracy theory about Nancy Pelosi’s husband being in a sexual relationship with the guy that attacked him?

It was almost like… alt-right… trolling

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by kalkin »

ravar wrote: post #61
kalkin wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon has interacted frequently and positively on Twitter in the last few weeks with alt-right figures like Ian Miles Cheong and Andy Ngo, e.g. agreeing that the slogan "hands up, don't shoot" is somehow a "lie", and retweeted a weird homophobic conspiracy theory about Paul Pelosi almost immediately after completing the acquisition. I don't think there was good (public) reason to believe these were his politics a year…

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Do you have examples of "actual" alt righters reacting this way? Or are you speaking for yourself?

Re: Bye, Twitter

#64

Post by allthecybers »

I just don't understand the need to announce your decision to stop using a particular social media platform. It's a free web service. You can use it or not. I guess I should have made an announcement when I switched away from Gmail.

"Hello everyone, I have decided to leave Gmail. I'll keep my account active, and still receive email there but I'm definitely leaving. I can't support Google which is a poster child of surveillance capitalism. I’m going to stop emailing pictures and observations and forwarding worthy voices and all that stuff. Remember: using my data without paying me."

Re: Bye, Twitter

#65

Post by phpisthebest »

kalkin wrote: post #53
phpisthebest wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am increasingly shocked that how mainstream traditional mainstreet political views are now viewed as "alt-right" online by the perpetual online class If Elon is alt-right then 85% of the US population is "alt-right"

Elon has interacted frequently and positively on Twitter in the last few weeks with alt-right figures like Ian Miles Cheong and Andy Ngo, e.g. agreeing that the slogan "hands up, don't shoot" is somehow a "lie", and retweeted a weird homophobic conspiracy theory about Paul Pelosi almost immediately after completing the acquisition. I don't think there was good (public) reason to believe these were his politics a year…

>> agreeing that the slogan "hands up, don't shoot" is somehow a "lie"

I guess I (a left libertarian) that put facts over narrative is now "alt-right" then because having actually read all of the Investigative reports from the DOJ, and state agencies one has to conclude if not a "lie" a HUGE distortion from the actual truth of the events.

Re: Bye, Twitter

#66

Post by nathanaldensr »

theGnuMe wrote: post #44
nomilk wrote: post #12

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My primary argument against banning (the right, or anyone) is I'm big enough to decide for myself if I want to listen/read them. When a platform makes the call on my behalf, they could be removing dissenting but legitimately truthful voices. I.e. people who have unpopular but true views, people who IMO should absolutely be heard out, but aren't because they're banned. A 2nd order effect is people self censor, since s…

A small vocal minority of hate will eventually become mainstream if good people stand by and do nothing. Watch as Elon eviscerates the mainstream media. He already calls many legit publications disinformation, saying that twitter will be the best and most truthful source of news itself. It's straight out of Trump's playbook. These are the the robber barons of the Internet. Hearst has nothing on them. I see it as the…

Your hate is not my hate (in a general sense). What gives you the right to decide?

Re: Bye, Twitter

#67

Post by zrail »

rgbrenner wrote: post #26

You can tell when the Elon fanboys feel threatened by how much they object to someone freely making a choice about where to spend their time. How dare this person make an announcement on their own website about their own decision about what websites they like?!

I'm not surprised that they're all over this thread. Not even disappointed. Mostly disappointed in myself for how much I thought this site was somehow better.

Re: Bye, Twitter

#68

Post by [deleted] »

reb wrote: post #33
phpisthebest wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am increasingly shocked that how mainstream traditional mainstreet political views are now viewed as "alt-right" online by the perpetual online class If Elon is alt-right then 85% of the US population is "alt-right"

What mainstream political views are you seeing cast as alt-right by the chronically online?

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Re: Bye, Twitter

#69

Post by vegcel »

phpisthebest wrote: post #57
1attice wrote: post #30

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The man literally promoted the idea that Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked because he visits gay bars, or something. How is that not alt-right? Yet, I fear you may be correct about that 85% statistic, nevertheless.

Well I agree he needs to take some time to vett news sources as his (correct) position that more traditional news (like CNN, AP, etc) can not be trusted before tweeting out links, which he deleted shortly there after, I do not call that "promoted" but today words have no meaning so sure. This is the think impossible standard to have, and one of the reason many people like Elon is the fact he has no filter, and gives…

The article he posted was clearly some Weekly World News type beat. For real, go read the article. It reads like an infomercial designed to scam boomers. I think Elon is just like many other fried boomers believing things that are obviously untrue because random website meta tag says so while reinforcing his previous views.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by kalkin »

phpisthebest wrote: post #60
reb wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What mainstream political views are you seeing cast as alt-right by the chronically online?

Traditional family values (not christian) but traditional nuclear family, traditional job / working to provide for a family, traditional parenting, etc. Anyone that does not have the term "CIS" in their vocabulary is called "alt-right" online

If "traditional nuclear family" is a euphemism for anti gay marriage, that's closer to the opposite of 85% in the US these days. Even so I've never heard that given as a sufficient reason to identify someone as alt right, although YMMV.
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