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A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal
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Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal
#62This story broke the camels back for us when it first appeared here and got us to migrate our email to protonmail and a domain we bought.
I wish we had a portable email address format, like phone numbers are, instead of being inherently tied to a provider.
This. There should be anti-monopoly regulation that would state that e-mail addresses belong to users, just like the phone numbers or domain names.
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#63Does getting your google account blocked prevent you from using GCP? There are so many stories of people losing access to google accounts that it seems way too risky to use GCP when this sort of thing can happen.
I don't know why people use gcp, I would like to hear some opinions.
The way I see it, if you don't mind price, you go with AWS (most polished). If you mind price gcp isn't really much cheaper, so you go with something actually cheap like OCI.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Forget that - Google states to the media they had reviewed the situation and had decided to uphold his ban. Good luck convincing them to admit their “appeal” system, and their media review, were mistakes. Google is too arrogant for that.
It might be worth remembering we only have one side of the story here. How do we know we can thoroughly trust the Dad any more than we can thoroughly trust Google? Perhaps there are more pictures Dad took the article doesn't know about? Perhaps Google can't verify it was indeed Dad's child in the images? Perhaps there is more to the story than what the article lets on...perhaps not. We will never really know.
Google seemed to review the images and determine they were for the reason he explained, but the video of his wife naked in the bed with his son seemed to be what was still considered an issue. Perhaps they were asleep while he filmed the video?
Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal
#65Thanks for the reminder. Wife and I take a lot of photos of our newborn, including in the bath. We think nothing of it, but probably worth figuring out a digital plan.
Use a film camera and develop the film yourself.
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#66This story broke the camels back for us when it first appeared here and got us to migrate our email to protonmail and a domain we bought.
I wish we had a portable email address format, like phone numbers are, instead of being inherently tied to a provider.
You don’t own a phone number either. Ever tried to move between countries?
Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might be worth remembering we only have one side of the story here. How do we know we can thoroughly trust the Dad any more than we can thoroughly trust Google? Perhaps there are more pictures Dad took the article doesn't know about? Perhaps Google can't verify it was indeed Dad's child in the images? Perhaps there is more to the story than what the article lets on...perhaps not. We will never really know.
We have one side of the story because the other side (huge corporation) didn’t give any information and decided to keep ban. No transparency there. Ps. This “we will never really know” is triggered me. This phrase used by Russian propaganda when they got caught in crimes every damn time.
> We have one side of the story because the other side (huge corporation) didn’t give any information and decided to keep ban. No transparency there.
I'm not sure why we expect Google to provide transparency for CSAM bans/investigations. That would be highly irregular, and not just for Google.
The Dad has legal path(s) to take if he feels he was truly wronged. Paths that would ultimately cost nothing if he prevailed. Paths that would likely force Google to undo their decision if Dad's statements are in fact the truth and Google has no other data/evidence.
Dad chose not do do any of that though... why? I'm confident there are lawyers out there that would even represent Dad for free.
> This phrase used by Russian propaganda when they got caught in crimes every damn time.
What?
Re: A Dad Took Photos of His Kid for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal
#68So, basically if I have disabled cloud backups in google photos, this shouldn't affect me right?
Do not send them via plaintext email, or a proprietary chat system. Also be aware that other corpo apps on your phone may harvest and back them up too or scan them in place. US cell carriers require extensive root access malware like OMA-DM toolkits that can be triggered to spy on anything on your phone at any time.
As long as you use proprietary software on your devices you will never be safe from this type of thing.
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#69Stratechery covered this … they pointed out the really f*ed: part: Google is refusing to reinstate the account. Protecting children is important. AI is imperfect. But there is no reason the keep the account suspended once it’s clear there was no wrongdoing. This man is innocent of doing anything wrong. Google had suspended him, and removed access to all his online account data. And refuses to reinstate. We balance ou…
This is the part that should receive a Congressional inquiry. I would love to see Congress drag Sundar Pichai (and no one else) before them and scream “What the hell is wrong with you?” in his face.
We have courts for a reason. They found no wrongdoing. Google is objectively deciding they know better than an elected court on what happened.
This whole situation is absurd and evil.
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#70what happened to the guy was awful but in general, don't ever store medical correspondence on Google cloud or send it over email or messengers . Here in the EU and I would be surprised if it's different in the US there's dedicated apps for telemedicine which are regulated like medical devices, so there's confidentiality, no storage or scanning of vieo or audio, and so on. Sucks but you can't really treat any other se…
It sounds like a secure platform was likely used to send it to the doctor but the photos were taken on a phone and auto backed up to Google Photos and also texted to his wife’s iPhone.