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FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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> and a negative $8bn entry described as “hidden, poorly internally labled ‘fiat@’ account”.

> Bankman-Fried told the Financial Times the $8bn related to funds “accidentally” extended to his trading firm, Alameda, but declined to comment further.

Oh look, $8bn just appeared on the balance sheet. Where did they come from? Doesn't matter, surely they are legit. I mean, I have so many billions, $8bn is pocket change. Lets use the $8bn for trading immediately.

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor This aims to address these issues. Verifiable hardware and open source OS and wallet.

There is no way a user can verify hardware and software. The only solution is to use multiple air gapped wallets from different manufacturers which use a deterministic algorithm for signatures.

Did you look at the precursor? They explicit address user verification of the hardware, right down to using simplified translucent PCBs for the keyboard etc. so you can see it hasn’t been tampered, and using an FPGA for the CPU so you know what the processor is doing.

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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It was all for charity. People are mean. https://twitter.com/The_Prologuist/status/158967849854920704...

Look, I’m a savvy investor who builds marketing teams and would never fall for this, but I think other people will, so I’m going to invest.

this is essentially why cryptoscams get VC money - sufficient clout and "reputation" amongst nerds is enough to make the scam work and let you get out before it's game over.

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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There should be more discussion about how to store value without counterparty risk. Most people think it is as easy as ordering a hardware wallet, following the process the wallet software suggests and - hurray! - your keys, your coins! But it is not that easy. You also have to cut the wallet manufacturer and the software developer out of the loop. I have yet to see a description on how to safely create a wallet that…

I'd recommend a PNC checking account. Solves a lot of issues related to storing value without counterparty risk.

Ally is a great option, and Schwab too. Both are neobanks that have very limited fees. Schwab even rebates all ATM fees globally and has three free wire transfers per quarter. [1]

And uh, both are FDIC members.

[1] https://www.nerdwallet.com/reviews/banking/charles-schwab-ba...

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no way a user can verify hardware and software. The only solution is to use multiple air gapped wallets from different manufacturers which use a deterministic algorithm for signatures.

Did you look at the precursor? They explicit address user verification of the hardware, right down to using simplified translucent PCBs for the keyboard etc. so you can see it hasn’t been tampered, and using an FPGA for the CPU so you know what the processor is doing.

Translucent material is a smokescreen. No user can verify if the wallet is really doing what it is supposed to do by looking at it.

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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post #43

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FTX isn’t a bank. They aren’t supposed to operate as a fractional reserve. Coinbase would be crucified by the SEC if they did this.

FTX US wasn't doing it either. They did it outside of SEC jurisdiction.

Any transaction that involves dollars involves American banks due to correspondent banking. That means there's jurisdiction in the EDNY or SDNY because that's where all the banks are. America also has jurisdiction over its citizens conduct. It may not be the SEC or even a securities fraud prosecution but if the government can find emails or logs that show intent or show that he was sending money to Alameda and trying to evade internal compliance controls he can be found guilty of wire fraud. The fact that he owns most of Alameda doesn't help him either.

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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There should be more discussion about how to store value without counterparty risk. Most people think it is as easy as ordering a hardware wallet, following the process the wallet software suggests and - hurray! - your keys, your coins! But it is not that easy. You also have to cut the wallet manufacturer and the software developer out of the loop. I have yet to see a description on how to safely create a wallet that…

You’re ignoring the largest risk - that your coins become valueless because nobody wants them. This is entirely beyond your control.

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

#68

There should be more discussion about how to store value without counterparty risk. Most people think it is as easy as ordering a hardware wallet, following the process the wallet software suggests and - hurray! - your keys, your coins! But it is not that easy. You also have to cut the wallet manufacturer and the software developer out of the loop. I have yet to see a description on how to safely create a wallet that…

You’re ignoring the largest risk - that your coins become valueless because nobody wants them. This is entirely beyond your control.

That's not counterparty risk.

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re ignoring the largest risk - that your coins become valueless because nobody wants them. This is entirely beyond your control.

That's not counterparty risk.

Depends on which coins. Asset-backed coins like USDC and USDT (lol) do carry counterparty risk which can cause them to become valueless. Some would say the latter already is. And since of course the majority of crypto is priced in USDT not USD, that becoming valueless due to counterparts risk will likely nuke prices across the board. Still almost $70B of funny money floating around the ecosystem.

Re: FTX held less than $1B in liquid assets against $9B in liabilities

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post #30

There should be more discussion about how to store value without counterparty risk. Most people think it is as easy as ordering a hardware wallet, following the process the wallet software suggests and - hurray! - your keys, your coins! But it is not that easy. You also have to cut the wallet manufacturer and the software developer out of the loop. I have yet to see a description on how to safely create a wallet that…

Multisig, with hardware from different companies, no one of which could constitute a quorum of your keys. If you have even just a 2-of-3 keyset with one Ledger, one Trezor, and a Coldcard, none of those companies can screw you by itself. If you go up to 3-of-5, it's even more robust. You can set it up yourself using FOSS like Electrum. Or you can hire somebody like Casa[0] to get it all set up and set up the infrastr…

The issue with hardware wallets that make them significantly risky is if you are storing wallets that contain any substantial amount of assets then it as risky as storing large sums of money in your house. If you lose that, it gets corrupted or destroyed then you've just lost those assets.

There are pros and cons vs having a password-protected file that you can at least backup to whatever devices you decide.

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