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TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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Post by cyral »

wingerlang wrote: post #45
cloudking wrote: post #35

TikTok Android data collected: https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.zhiliao... - Location - Personal info: Name, Email, User IDs, Address, Phone Number - Financial info: User payment info, purchase history, other financial info - Messages: Other in-app messages - Photos & Videos - Audio voice & sound recordings - Contacts - App activity: App interactions, in-app search history, other user generated co…

What purchases, from what source? Same with financial information. Contact info and contacts, only if you allow it? User content, what does that even mean? Search and browsing history is likely just from within the app, I don't see how they would get it from elsewhere.

Purchases probably meaning the in-app purchase for things you can send to people on TikTok lives. I have seen app dev advice that if you store purchase info on your server in any way, instead of it being a local only purchase, then you must check the box that you collect purchase info.

Re: TikTok’s greatest asset isn’t its algorithm, it’s your phone

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Post by returnInfinity »

kikokikokiko wrote: post #17

I'm flabbergasted by the appeal Tiktok apparently has over the average Joe. I can't stand it. Vertical videos, combined with the exact duration of a short term memory loss affected person's attention span, make me want to throw my eyes into a furnace. I block Youtube shorts for this same stupid reason, even great channels can't resist Google's whip "incentivizing" them to make these AMAZING short vertical pieces of s…

Tiktok in India had some of the most fun and entertaining short clips. Unlike instagram tiktok feed broke through class barrier.

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Post by scarface74 »

jojobas wrote: post #40
scarface74 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes because the War on Drugs has worked wonders. Any law that is passed to restrict people from doing something that only harms themselves ends up being applied unevenly and usually only affects the poor/minorities. See “the War on Drugs”

Heavy taxes, plain packaging and other measures helped halve tobacco consumption over some 16 years in Australia. I have no issue with poor people having better mental and lung health.

Win?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/15/regul...

> Regular cannabis use has become more accepted than smoking tobacco, the latest National Drug Strategy Household Survey (NDSHS) has found.

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Post by cloudking »

wingerlang wrote: post #45
cloudking wrote: post #35

TikTok Android data collected: https://play.google.com/store/apps/datasafety?id=com.zhiliao... - Location - Personal info: Name, Email, User IDs, Address, Phone Number - Financial info: User payment info, purchase history, other financial info - Messages: Other in-app messages - Photos & Videos - Audio voice & sound recordings - Contacts - App activity: App interactions, in-app search history, other user generated co…

What purchases, from what source? Same with financial information. Contact info and contacts, only if you allow it? User content, what does that even mean? Search and browsing history is likely just from within the app, I don't see how they would get it from elsewhere.

Updated with more context and source links. The real question is, why does it need all this data to show you videos?

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Post by wingworks »

nifeoluyemi wrote: post #3

I chuckled at - "There is no time to think about what you just saw because as soon as the clip ends, you’re on to the next one. The spectator is rendered a consummate consumer," I still haven't installed/registered for tiktok, I have no more bandwidth for another social network. I'm still fighting IG and Twitter addiction, what happens when I add another one. Just throw your phones away haha.

Add a time limit to each app, start of generous, then week by week cut it down by a bit. Worked pretty well for me.

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Post by no_butterscotch »

planetsprite wrote: post #5

Even if TikTok were suddenly wiped off every phone on the planet, a competitor would take its place. TikTok simply takes advantage of people's desire to be entertained and apathy over privacy issues.

Unfortunately true.

Even when presented with TikTok's data harvesting or algorithm tweaking to make divisive issues trend more popularly -- no users want to give it up.

Really does anyone have any better rationale that could be used to convince people not to use it? I have older relatives (60s) and younger (teens) that are obsessed with it.

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Post by googlryas »

planetsprite wrote: post #5

Even if TikTok were suddenly wiped off every phone on the planet, a competitor would take its place. TikTok simply takes advantage of people's desire to be entertained and apathy over privacy issues.

Most people don't care about privacy issues not because of apathy, but because they have a different sense of privacy than privacy advocates.

I believe privacy advocates view private information without nuance, whereas normal people do not. Many people would not care a lick of you could figure out they ate at subway earlier in the day, whereas this is worrying to privacy advocates.

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robin_reala wrote: post #59
Watchwatcher wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After realizing that HN can be a rather challenging place (highlighted in the shocking moderation of the Queen E death announcement thread), I actually took a substantial break from HN. And it made me quite a bit happier. I recommend you make your own HN with RSS. It is substantially better that way. You won't be at the mercy of one moderators personal belief system and your 'main page' will hopefully better reflect…

Dang’s explanation of the moderation of that thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32773299

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barbazoo wrote: post #11

I'm finally in a place where the only website I religiously check is HN. Because of it's nature, for me, it never takes up more than a few minutes every couple of hours. It took hard work to get there. I use Nextdns to block domains of websites and apps when I realize I spend too much time on them. Could I just allowlist domains, sure, and sometimes I do that when I need to look at something on Reddit for instance. B…

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