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Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by mberning »

CJefferson wrote: post #55
mberning wrote: post #30

If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? Charitably it would seem that this is just the topic du jour and "top of mind" for many people due to recent changes at Twitter. But if running your own Mastodon server is a good idea today, surely it was a good idea two weeks ago. Cynically, it seems that many of these people seem motivated b…

Yes seem to be writing sarcastically and I'm not sure why. You are right, I, like many people, believe Elon is going to ruin Twitter, possibly bankrupting it. Therefore it is worth looking at alternatives. The ruining of Twitter makes alternatives more attractive.

You weren't worried about it going bankrupt when it was losing millions of dollars a day and running in the red for years on end?

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by incomingpain »

Mastodon back in 2019 had a grand opportunity to set themselves up for success; they made the wrong decision. If they had made the correct decision in 2019; they could have in 2020 doubled down on the correct decision during the hunter biden laptop conspiracy theory. Unfortunately, Mastodon will forever remain nothing because of this decision.

Mastodon has no nazis, it does have that going for them.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/783akg/mastodon-is-like-twit...

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by nemo44x »

This is such backwards thought. You don't want to make your social network presence a place people have to go to. You want your presence to be where people go to. Centralized social networks give people who publish content massive audience potential. Running your own Website for this completely misses the point and you might as well just add a forum to your site.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by arrosenberg »

Arubis wrote: post #38
mberning wrote: post #30

If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? Charitably it would seem that this is just the topic du jour and "top of mind" for many people due to recent changes at Twitter. But if running your own Mastodon server is a good idea today, surely it was a good idea two weeks ago. Cynically, it seems that many of these people seem motivated b…

It was a good idea two weeks ago as risk mitigation. Now the bad thing risk mitigation was meant to mitigate is happening. It's also a good idea not to build a house on a floodplain, or in an area with high risk of fire. People tend to do so anyway until the area floods or burns.

> People tend to do so anyway until the area floods or burns.

Thanks to Federal insurance programs that were implemented pre-climate crisis, they continue to build there after too, for the most part.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by phailhaus »

CJefferson wrote: post #58
phailhaus wrote: post #52

> How do you connect to millions of people without using Facebook or Twitter? Oh interesting! Let me check out their instance that they linked to: "Find us at https://toot.thoughtworks.com " > This is a Mastodon instance solely for employees of Thoughtworks. Whoops! In general, I don't see how this helps a company at all to reach the millions of users that they could through Facebook or Twitter. On those platforms, i…

Yes, I am imagine their email server is also just for their employees. What's your point?

They literally link it at the end of the article with "Find us at https://toot.thoughtworks.com"

On a blog post about running your own instance to reach millions of users, why does it turn out that their instance is totally locked down and actually not accessible to anyone?

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by taylodl »

The Disney company should heed this device and call their server(s) Mousetodon. I think they'd kill it. Heck, they could automatically enroll everybody subscribed to Disney+. They could even have different servers for different sets of fanbases to focus on - Marvel, Star Wars, etc.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by phailhaus »

riffic wrote: post #59
phailhaus wrote: post #52

> How do you connect to millions of people without using Facebook or Twitter? Oh interesting! Let me check out their instance that they linked to: "Find us at https://toot.thoughtworks.com " > This is a Mastodon instance solely for employees of Thoughtworks. Whoops! In general, I don't see how this helps a company at all to reach the millions of users that they could through Facebook or Twitter. On those platforms, i…

federation works just like email. I don't want just anyone to have a whitehouse.gov address (do you?)

Then what's the point of the closing line "Find us at https://toot.thoughtworks.com"?

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by throwaway8682 »

mberning wrote: post #30

If the idea of federated Twitter was so good and so important why did everyone seemingly only get interested in it right now? Charitably it would seem that this is just the topic du jour and "top of mind" for many people due to recent changes at Twitter. But if running your own Mastodon server is a good idea today, surely it was a good idea two weeks ago. Cynically, it seems that many of these people seem motivated b…

> it seems that many of these people seem motivated by their animus towards Elon

Is there something bad about that? People are free to choose where they discuss things, and whom they give their money. He is tearing down moderation, crapping on verification, and injecting itself on electoral politics. Any CEO of Social Media that peddles on weird conspiracies of Pelosi's husband, and then just today announce that vote for Republicans...

What did you expect? That people will take it as "That's just Elon"...

Only sad aspect of this is that BlueSky project that supposedly allowed to move followers between servers was not ready, and he might not be particularly interested on allowing it anymore, as everyone would just flee with their followers.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by dugmartin »

phailhaus wrote: post #52

> How do you connect to millions of people without using Facebook or Twitter? Oh interesting! Let me check out their instance that they linked to: "Find us at https://toot.thoughtworks.com " > This is a Mastodon instance solely for employees of Thoughtworks. Whoops! In general, I don't see how this helps a company at all to reach the millions of users that they could through Facebook or Twitter. On those platforms, i…

It is also leaking the number ThoughtWorks employees via the server stats on that page.

Re: Your Organization should run its own Mastodon server

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Post by unicornporn »

sneak wrote: post #12

No organization wants to do this, unfortunately. Twitter and Instagram are “free”. Running servers costs money, made more expensive by the choice in the Mastodon design to not support virtual hosting on a per-domain basis. You have to run (and admin) a complete new instance of Mastodon for each domain you wish to support.

> No organization wants to do this, unfortunately. Twitter and Instagram are “free”. Running servers costs money […]

2000 active users for $89 per month[1]. That's probably less than you would spend on toilet paper for 2000 employees. I don't think money would be the biggest reason why an organization or company wouldn't commit to the Fediverse.

Mastodon is also a DigitalOcean 1-click app[2] if you're willing to spend more time.

[1] https://masto.host/pricing/

[2] https://marketplace.digitalocean.com/apps/mastodon

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