Don’t lots of companies do layoffs? Why don’t they all get this much attention? Surely messy layoffs aren’t uncommon.
Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go
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#62I mean if I need to lower costs ASAP, nice to haves like A11y would be the first to get cut.
> nice to haves like A11y
People get upset about government regulation forcing companies to take accessibility seriously but then people like you come around to prove exactly why that kind of regulation is necessary.
I'd like to live in a world where it wasn't but comments like these make it abundantly clear that we're nowhere close to that world
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#63Would be great if everybody could be a little less hysterical.
Maybe the team was just sh*t and expensive. They get rid of them, so they can hire better people at a better price. Which make a lot of sense now that many tech companies have big layoffs.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
We all hate to see people losing their jobs, but it's been known for a very long time that Twitter had an extremely bloated headcount. I'm not at all surprised that something called the "Accessibility Experience Team" was one of the first groups to get cut.
Uhhh I don't consider making an app accessible to be contributing to the problem of a "bloated headcount". Maybe the team itself had too many people on it, but to axe the entire team is pretty disgusting and shows a complete disregard for an entire class of people's needs
Accessibility is not a critical business function the same way running Twitter's datacenters is a critical business function.
I work at $LARGE_CORPORATION and our product a11y team's most recent major ship was a new palette of colors with improved contrast ratios. A UI change that makes the site easier to read for < 1% of users does not contribute meaningfully to incremental revenue. If I were Musk I would have cut this team too.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Before it was that private companies could do whatever they wanted, now many trying to impose their will on Twitter’s actions all of a sudden. Huh
> Before it was that private companies could do whatever they wanted, No, it was that “free speech” means private actors are free to make decisions about what content to relay. Not that everything they choose on that (or any other) is equally good, nor that they shouldn’t be punished in the marketplace (not by the state) for their bad choices.
Yup
That’s why in a free marketplace, Elon asserted his free speech to take over Twitter due to their perceived poor management.
Maybe if they had managed more equitably, none of this would have happened. But the market giveth and the market taketh
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#66> Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go A8y "A11y" s4s f1r accesibility. (Apparently "A11y" stands for accesibility). "Twitter is better in the app" is not a sign of "accesibility". Sign in is not a sign of "accesibility".
Accessibility mostly means that the intended experience is preserved if you need to use tools like screen readers. Accessibility != User Friendly
> Accessibility != User Friendly
No but many studies have shown that designs (in architecture as well as web and print design) that focus on accessibility are rated as having better UX by the general populace as well
Cutting a11y likely will also lead to a decline in UX in general
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
And I agree, but that is not how I read your comment. If you expanded it with "There are no moral requirements... for companies to provide accessibility features" it would have been entirely different story.
People can read into it whatever they want. I was just stating a fact. Personally I’m perturbed that so many people expect society to work out of goodwill and not through enforced regulations decided by the voters. Certainly that world would be nice, but it’s naive and ineffective
I don't think people downvote you because we "expect society to work out of goodwill and not through enforced regulations decided by the voters", but because your blanket statmenet denying the existince of moral requirements is interpreted negatively. I for one agree that relying just on morals is not enough and that regulations is needed, but your sentence is obviously not universally interpreted in that light.
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#68This is a real bummer. An app with as wide and diverse a user base as Twitter needs to take accessibility seriously. You can't be the public square if a significant fraction of people are excluded.
We all hate to see people losing their jobs, but it's been known for a very long time that Twitter had an extremely bloated headcount. I'm not at all surprised that something called the "Accessibility Experience Team" was one of the first groups to get cut.
And when a high profile app isn't accessible by legal standards, it'll be the easiest money for a competent lawyer to make.
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#69Don’t lots of companies do layoffs? Why don’t they all get this much attention? Surely messy layoffs aren’t uncommon.
Because it's Elon, the devil incarnate (apparently)!
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#70> Twitter’s Entire A11y Experience Team Let Go A8y "A11y" s4s f1r accesibility. (Apparently "A11y" stands for accesibility). "Twitter is better in the app" is not a sign of "accesibility". Sign in is not a sign of "accesibility".
That actually is the commonly accepted industry term. Like i18n and l10n
Haven't heard l10n. If anyone else is wondering, that's localization.
Tbh a11y is the main one that makes sense. I don't get what the point of i18n and l10n acronyms is besides saving us some typing and generally fitting into the vague category of "giving a crap about users often not considered in design"