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It’s not “very clear” to this outsider that Twitter was bloated, not that the firings adhere to any particular “debloating” rationale. Edit: The approach Musk has taken to layoffs also does not evoke maturity.
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No, but he is impulsive, careless, fraudulent and, when it comes to software, incompetent.
I find analysis of this type petty and stupid. It’s like arguing Doyle Brunson was just really lucky. How much success, across multiple decades in so many different fields of business and technology, must someone acquire before meeting your standards? I feel like I’m reading comments on Slashdot about Bill Gates in 1999. But in comparison, Elon Musk is wildly more successful than 1999 Bill Gates.
This article reads like an abused partner defending their abuser. This kind of double-sidedness is extremely common in abusive relationships, in large part because it's a really effective method of exerting control over someone while encouraging them to blame themselves for being abused. > If there are employees not aligned with that vision, he will chew them out and he will do it in a vicious way, which is his right…
We're all adults, don't like his style, don't work for him. It's that simple. Obviously enough people don't think his style is harsh or vicious, as described in the article, otherwise his numerous companies wouldn't have a line out the door of prospective employees. My take on the article was Musk drives you like a good highschool sports coach. Demanding, hard, unforgiving... and you either live up to the high expect…
Join a cult?
> Not to mention the guy in the article only worked with Musk for less than 1 year, over 20 years ago.
He's likely much worse now. A person's nature doesn't change so much over the years but the experiences they have influences how those traits come out. What happens when someone like this has acquired wealth and success, has been surrounded by sycophants, and repeatedly gets away with shit behavior. Who's really going to stop a 'bad Elon' day for him? As we saw on the Twitter thing, nobody can stop a 'good Elon' idea that he maybe shouldn't have done either.
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That just feels like a cheap way to live. Maybe it's prudent, but I feel like I couldn't live with myself.
Read Sun Tzu, live like a great general, pick your battles wisely, and make the cost worth the gain. You will make more of a difference and live a life of more power than 'trying to not live a cheap way'.
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Very horrible vs. extremely horrible. Spot the difference.
If I were younger, I’d work for either of them. I’m not fragile.
Why? You could work in a less toxic environment and just buy their stock if you believe in the mission.
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This. We're talking about a guy who publicly falsely accused a guy he was jealous of of being a pedo without evidence. Just imagine what he would do if he could get away with it without backlash I wouldn't want to gez on his bad side because I think he has the power and pettiness to ruin my life
You can grovel in front of an abuser, giving up all human dignity, if you want. In the end, he is just a man, and evil one at that.
There is no denying this type of uncivilized abusive leadership works sometimes. It drives off people not suited to it, but results speak for themselves.
Complete opposite approaches work also. I think it's tied to leaders personality. Asshole can't succeed with nice guy strategy, nice guy can't succeed with asshole strategy.
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We're all adults, don't like his style, don't work for him. It's that simple. Obviously enough people don't think his style is harsh or vicious, as described in the article, otherwise his numerous companies wouldn't have a line out the door of prospective employees. My take on the article was Musk drives you like a good highschool sports coach. Demanding, hard, unforgiving... and you either live up to the high expect…
The difference is your sports coach knows what good looks like. Musk is a bloviating idiot demanding on-paper code review.
My code has earned me zero millions so far...
> The difference is your sports coach knows what good looks like
How can we honestly say Musk doesn't? Has his numerous successes not demonstrated he clearly knows what he's doing? All of his thousands and thousands of employees are just... hostages I guess?
I get it's fashionable to hate on Musk right now - and if you review my comment record you will see very few have been more bearish on Musk since the very beginning, but this latest round of criticisms are really just not reality.
The vision of space occupation has always come across to me as really stupid. From many scientific points of view it is infeasible, and many philosophical perspectives on top of that. I get the idea of making your vision come true and treating every obstacle as a technicality, but not all problems work that way. Especially not ones that go really far against biology.
That might be true. But let’s think about it from a larger perspective. Let’s just assume that, however unlikely, we managed to survive next 800 million years on this planet. Once our Sun starts dying, we gotta get out of here anyway. For sure, the only end game for us must be to become an interplanetary species.
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The guy has money and acolytes in high places. Quit if you want, but dont make an enemy of someone who can blacklist you. Just leave. Dont make a scene.
This. We're talking about a guy who publicly falsely accused a guy he was jealous of of being a pedo without evidence. Just imagine what he would do if he could get away with it without backlash I wouldn't want to gez on his bad side because I think he has the power and pettiness to ruin my life