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Well, I have been using Ubuntu for many years. This kind of thing, centralizing packages and removing one without explanation etc makes me think I should move on. I suppose the alternative is to switch to Debian? Or maybe there is something totally different that is becoming popular that I don't know about yet?
Manjaro or mint too.
This is not a good look. The snap has been gone for almost a month, with seemingly no information given to the maintainer or users about why, except a belated "we removed it for policy reasons" 21 days ago. And if this happens to maintainers associated with Snapcrafters , imagine how you're treated if you're just some random person or company who maintains your own snap. This is the sort of reason why people are conc…
Compromise one of those devs' personal computers, and you've now got a path to getting a backdoor out to everybody using those. I trust Canonical's security team over random volunteers.
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> Also certbot, shame on you for removing the Debian repository in favor of snap. Yes, this deserves shaming. > https://certbot.eff.org/instructions > The Certbot snap supports the x86_64, ARMv7, and ARMv8 architectures. While we strongly recommend that most users install Certbot through the snap, you can find alternate installation instructions here. Shame on you, certbot and EFF. Of all people, I expected better fr…
Debian has it too: https://packages.debian.org/sid/certbot And even Ubuntu: https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/certbot Though I guess there's a risk that eventually the Ubuntu package becomes a facade package like Chrome is, that has no content but uses a postinstall script to grab you the snap instead.
Canonical's communication to me was initially lacking due to issues in their process, the process has been amended and I'm back in the loop again.
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Because that doesn't solve the discovery problem. People want an easy way to find new things. Whether that's `apt search` or Google Play.
Do Linux users installing software actually have a "discovery problem"? The usual solution is to go to google.com and find in-depth information on the options available for a given class of software, with user reviews, notes on strengths and shortcomings, etc. I have never visited a store first on a desktop OS, and even average users of mobile OS' that I know will fire up Google first if they're actually trying to fi…
When searching on Google, I have to look through a bunch of crappy results from SEO optimized crap. Then when I find something that looks interesting, I have to see if it's packaged for Fedora or not. If not, then I have to hunt down either a GitHub page or look for a RPM file or a flat pack or app image. I won't use a snap even if it's the only distribution method.
There's also a very convenient way of checking for popularity, which doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad pic, but if the package is popular enough that somebody has packaged it for Fedora and maintains the package, there's a very high chance that it will work as needed.
If you don't currently check the apt or DNF repos first, I would definitely recommend doing so.
I'm being slightly offtopic here but I really dislike how slow Firefox is to launch since it became a snap package as a default on Ubuntu 22.04. I know I can uninstall the Firefox snap and install it through APT, but I imagine more and more packages will become snaps by default on Ubuntu. And finding out now that it's possible that snaps are part of a walled garden, just like app/play stores are is really bumming me…
If you're writing software, the switch will be a great way to see that your code is robust and not too closely coupled to the peculiarities of Ubuntu. Portability may not be an explicit goal but it turns out to have some benefits.
Well, I have been using Ubuntu for many years. This kind of thing, centralizing packages and removing one without explanation etc makes me think I should move on. I suppose the alternative is to switch to Debian? Or maybe there is something totally different that is becoming popular that I don't know about yet?
Discussed recently in another story, but many including me like Pop!_OS as a better version of Ubuntu.
This is not a good look. The snap has been gone for almost a month, with seemingly no information given to the maintainer or users about why, except a belated "we removed it for policy reasons" 21 days ago. And if this happens to maintainers associated with Snapcrafters , imagine how you're treated if you're just some random person or company who maintains your own snap. This is the sort of reason why people are conc…
While this incident isn't good, I still think the setup is a ton better than Flathub, where you have flatpaks being maintained by third parties with no relationship to the software vendors. For example, all of the Jetbrains snaps are managed by a volunteer, as is Zoom (!) Compromise one of those devs' personal computers, and you've now got a path to getting a backdoor out to everybody using those. I trust Canonical's…
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Debian has it too: https://packages.debian.org/sid/certbot And even Ubuntu: https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/certbot Though I guess there's a risk that eventually the Ubuntu package becomes a facade package like Chrome is, that has no content but uses a postinstall script to grab you the snap instead.
versions in debian and ubuntu repo's have a tendency to lag behind, current version seems to be 1.30.x while in debian and ubuntu repos it's on 1.29.x