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Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released

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Happy to see this getting updated, although it is bittersweet to realize it has a minuscule user base and that the UX will likely never change (the three-button mouse UX simply isn’t a good fit for today’s laptops).

With regard to laptop, you need a thinkpad. it caught me off-guard when I picked up mine many years ago, because I was not looking for three buttons on a laptop. but it quickly became my favorite feature. As an X11 user, I think that select/single button paste is one of the better features of the platform. I miss it terribly when on windows.

> As an X11 user, I think that select/single button paste is one of the better features of the platform. I miss it terribly when on windows.

As a compulsive text-highlighter, I've always found it useless. Between that and not being able to copy-and-replace with it, I'd say I've used it by accident at least as often as I've used it on purpose. And I've been using X-window systems since before 3-button (no scrollwheel) mice went all-but extinct, so I should have been able to get used to it if I was ever going to.

Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released

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> like the copy of Mein Kampf being in every copy of the source code It was an over the top political gag in response to the original labs people inserting a copy of the gettysburg address in /lib. It was removed as the gag was lost on most people.

I guess whoever inserted it probably didn't quite anticipate the rise in neo-nazism and the far-right in recent years? Like before 2016 it's an edgy joke that'd make most people roll their eyes at worst if they know the context. Afterwards, and particularly after Charlottesville, regardless of the intent it does look like a very particular and sinister kind of statement.

The submitter was indeed very young and naive. The offending text was removed well before 2016.

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I don’t know how people use trackpads for anything but causal use anyway, even on a Mac I find them to be a constant strain on my psyche compared to using my mouse- I always have one on me if I have my laptop

By contrast, I don't know how people put up with mice. I discovered a cirque touchpad in the mid-90s and i've preferred them ever since. Of course, nothing's worse than the weirdos who like trackballs.

You wrist-movers just can't handle the way we shine wondrously with our bright reds and blues, how we glide smoothly and graciously across the screen with the tiniest motion of a single finger, using a trackball is the closest a man comes to godliness.

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But is it a thinkpad with 3 buttons? ;)

X1 Carbon Gen 6, top of the line. The 3 button UX is still atrocious regardless of any way you try to defend it...

>The 3 button UX is still atrocious regardless

Speak for yourself...

Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess whoever inserted it probably didn't quite anticipate the rise in neo-nazism and the far-right in recent years? Like before 2016 it's an edgy joke that'd make most people roll their eyes at worst if they know the context. Afterwards, and particularly after Charlottesville, regardless of the intent it does look like a very particular and sinister kind of statement.

The submitter was indeed very young and naive. The offending text was removed well before 2016.

Unrelated to this topic, but tangential: I believe the first step in repeating history is to forget it happened. Being human is a continual process of error-driven development.

Re: 9front “The Golden Age of Ballooning” Released

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I like the idea of moving past Unix, getting rid of the baud rate on your terminal and no longer just emulating a VT1000, new operating paradigms and overall saying no to legacy compatibility in favor of actually moving into the future.

I'm not convinced the mouse is the way to go. They're so limiting; I have a panel of switches in front of me that can do anything I want and it defaults to typewriter all of the time. Meanwhile i use one finger for everything except typing. That's a bit ridiculous.

Currently I'm convinced, a modular microkernel with a plain graphical environment built around keyboard and tiling windows is the way to go. You can get graphical composability with a tiling paradigm. You can't get it any other way IMO.

Behind the scenes, can we get rid of languages-as-APIs and all these convoluted libraries? I think a binary should be self contained besides interfacing with hardware and the operating environment.

A good approach to graphical computing environments is a standardized API for graphical applications that the environment plugs into and renders, rather than the application itself rendering itself graphically. This would enable graphical composability as well, two graphical applications can call each other via their API and interact easily.

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With regard to laptop, you need a thinkpad. it caught me off-guard when I picked up mine many years ago, because I was not looking for three buttons on a laptop. but it quickly became my favorite feature. As an X11 user, I think that select/single button paste is one of the better features of the platform. I miss it terribly when on windows.

> As an X11 user, I think that select/single button paste is one of the better features of the platform. I miss it terribly when on windows. As a compulsive text-highlighter, I've always found it useless. Between that and not being able to copy-and-replace with it, I'd say I've used it by accident at least as often as I've used it on purpose. And I've been using X-window systems since before 3-button (no scrollwheel)…

I can see that would be annoying, however for me...

Imagine if every time you hit ctrl+c or ctrl+v a dialog opened up asking if you are sure you want to copy or paste. a bit annoying, breaks your train of thought, and doubles your keypresses.

That is what it feels like to go from x11 to windows.

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