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Open letter to Gitea

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Re: Open letter to Gitea

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I’ve never participated in an open source community so this is the view of an ignorant third party. Everytime I see anything related to the open source world bubble up into the public I am only reminded of high school and college level social drama. It seems utterly exhausting to be involved

Honestly put me off ever wanting to get involved.

Re: Open letter to Gitea

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Standard HN weirdo behavior getting angry at imaginary opponents and ranting about personal agency You’re in a discussion section. Things will be discussed. Unless YOU are a top contributor to gitea, you’re doing exactly what you’re complaining everyone else here is doing: wasting time opining on the direction of a software you didn’t write

> Unless YOU are a top contributor to gitea

And the top contributors seem to be exerting that choice aren't they? Now what?

Re: Open letter to Gitea

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I’ve never participated in an open source community so this is the view of an ignorant third party. Everytime I see anything related to the open source world bubble up into the public I am only reminded of high school and college level social drama. It seems utterly exhausting to be involved

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Re: Open letter to Gitea

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I’ve never participated in an open source community so this is the view of an ignorant third party. Everytime I see anything related to the open source world bubble up into the public I am only reminded of high school and college level social drama. It seems utterly exhausting to be involved

Every larger community (or even medium sized ones) have friction around collaboration, as they are efforts to reach a common goal but not always is the way of achieving those goals agreed upon by everyone (or sometimes, not even the goal is common).

The only difference between open source community and private ones is that the discussion ("the social drama") tends to be done out in the open for everyone to see in the open source ones, while in the private ones it happens behind closed doors or between individuals behind peoples back.

Re: Open letter to Gitea

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A few of the top contributors are the one behind the company. It is fair to assume they are perfectly ok with stealing from the community as it directly benefits them...

Copyright doesn't exist in a vacuum someone owns the copyright on the logo, it's up to them to determine who they want to transfer / license that to. Trademark will be up to the USPTO and other jurisdictional bodies to determine who has the right to use it to minimize confusion to consumers. The people doing all the work are "stealing" from the "community" that contributes much less? If someone wants to fork here, it…

The example of Emby vs Jellyfin is illustrative here. Emby was "the open source Plex alternative", then they went commercial, then they went closed source. The community forked the last open release as Jellyfin, and despite most of the previous contributors being employed by Emby and the Jellyfin community being newer contributors, it's clear that Jellyfin has overtaken Emby these days, and has put more of a dent in Plex market share than Emby ever did.

Or I mean even Gitea has been on the other side of this, while the Gitea contributors _were_ gogs contributors pre-fork, they were not the largest.

Re: Open letter to Gitea

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I get tired of community uprisings and activism that fundamentally misunderstand how open source works, fork it. If you're not the in the top producers in a DoOcracy then you neglected your right to exert influence in the direction of the project. I've led a few larger projects and the rate at which the least of us will have the biggest opinions about who is -owed- what is flabbergasting. DoOcracy's are great, but th…

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Re: Open letter to Gitea

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post #44

I’ve never participated in an open source community so this is the view of an ignorant third party. Everytime I see anything related to the open source world bubble up into the public I am only reminded of high school and college level social drama. It seems utterly exhausting to be involved

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Re: Open letter to Gitea

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A few of the top contributors are the one behind the company. It is fair to assume they are perfectly ok with stealing from the community as it directly benefits them...

What has been stolen from the community exactly? The trademarks were never theirs, and the copyright still is.

1. The community governance structure that was promised by the Gitea developers

2. The reassurance that Gitea would be a stable platform to build on without having to compromise between the open source project and a commercial variant

Re: Open letter to Gitea

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I’ve never participated in an open source community so this is the view of an ignorant third party. Everytime I see anything related to the open source world bubble up into the public I am only reminded of high school and college level social drama. It seems utterly exhausting to be involved

Thats because disputes tend to get a lot more attention than things that work well.

For example, it seems you never saw any of the news about how the Python community calmly and carefully discussed what they were going to do to move forward after Guido resigned as BDFL?

Re: Open letter to Gitea

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I’ve never participated in an open source community so this is the view of an ignorant third party. Everytime I see anything related to the open source world bubble up into the public I am only reminded of high school and college level social drama. It seems utterly exhausting to be involved

> Everytime I see anything related to the open source world bubble up into the public I am only reminded of high school and college level social drama.

This is entirely explained by survivorship bias. The matural social interactions which are the bread and butter of open source never bubble up to your purview because they aren't dramatic and interesting.

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