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Telegram has stolen my channel's username to sell it on auction

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Re: Telegram has stolen my channel's username to sell it on auction

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Post by olah_1 »

kube-system wrote: post #40
olah_1 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

one XMPP server gets big and usernames get squatted and dealt with at the discretion of the server admin. Only solution is something like how Farcaster does it where you at least get to keep your public key the same and usernames are optional. https://github.com/farcasterxyz/protocol#3-identity Or go the urbit route and make the addresses totally user owned.

Federate messaging servers and make addresses domain specific. Works fine for email.

People lose their gmail accounts all the time for weird reasons. Maybe you are specifically talking about a world where everyone self hosts their own servers?

Re: Telegram has stolen my channel's username to sell it on auction

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Post by kube-system »

olah_1 wrote: post #61
kube-system wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Federate messaging servers and make addresses domain specific. Works fine for email.

People lose their gmail accounts all the time for weird reasons. Maybe you are specifically talking about a world where everyone self hosts their own servers?

Gmail sucks, but not for any reason caused by email the protocol.

Re: Telegram has stolen my channel's username to sell it on auction

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Post by duskwuff »

jaywalk wrote: post #36
duskwuff wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not better when it comes at the cost of taking some of those handles away from people that were using them.

But they weren't using them. That's the whole point.

There are a number of situations I'm personally aware of where users had usernames revoked for channels they were actively using.

One common case where this occurred is when users used a channel as a "bio" or "blog", and posted to the channel infrequently to update it.

Re: Telegram has stolen my channel's username to sell it on auction

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Post by Normille »

neongreen wrote: post #26
ls15 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no such guarantees. People failed to choose a protocol that is trustworthy and fell for pseudo sometimes-on encryption. He is trying to make money while the market is going down.

I wanted to object (as a happy Telegram user) that I want to preserve message history for all my devices, but then it occurred to me that iMessage is end-to-end-encrypted and also has pretty transparent message history sync. So now I think that yeah, Telegram should adopt E2E by default. Another thing that would be lost with the switch to E2E is server-based search, but honestly I can live with that.

  >I wanted to object (as a happy Telegram user) that I want to preserve message history for all my devices...
Telegram is already useless on that score. Since the other party/ies in a conversation can delete their messages from everyone else's devices as well as from their own. I stopped taking any of Telegram's privacy and security claims seriously when i discovered that gem.

I still use Telegram to keep in touch with a load of family and friends but I have no faith in whatsoever any of their self-righteous privacy & security claims and comparisons with other messaging services. For a very long time now, evey update has focussed on adding moronic cutesy junk like animated emojis and stickers. So it's quite clear that their focus has moved away from being a private & secure messaging service and towards appealing to the TikTok generation.

That's fine. It's their project. They can do what they want with it and [as I said] I still find it useful. I just wish they wouldn't keep on trying to convince people it's a serious secure commmunication tool.

Re: Telegram has stolen my channel's username to sell it on auction

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Post by ranger_danger »

WilTimSon wrote: post #58
MiguelX413 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They may also just be new here, spreading news to HN

Then my advice about sticking to a dignified tone and knowing the rules still applies. Happy to have more people sharing but there's a reason HN isn't the same vibe as Reddit.

And there's also a reason lobsters isn't the same vibe as HN.

Re: Telegram has stolen my channel's username to sell it on auction

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Post by snotrockets »

stiltzkin wrote: post #33
snotrockets wrote: post #28

Telegram is a social network delivered through a messaging front end, which is confusing when you expect it to behave like a messaging service. It isn't one any more than Facebook or Twitter are.

Telegram now is more akin to Discord and Twitter with bots, channels and public groups. It's been some time Telegram has moved from personal chatting app as WhatsApp.

Exactly. And when talking in a public space that is privately owned, it should be expected that others would listen to your convos or that the owner can throw you out at will.

The problem is just that Telegram still advertises itself, and people expect it to be a messaging app.

Re: Telegram has stolen my channel's username to sell it on auction

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Post by filestorage »

Lucent wrote: post #54
puppable wrote: post #38

Interesting how many green accounts are in this thread describing the same problem with the exact same typing style. All of them made within the last two hours.

Almost certainly it's a cybersquatter upset his cache of squatted names is being seized and is attempting to manufacture dissent. Recommend the site owner look at IPs and see how many HN accounts he has as well and flush those, too.

I'm one of the guy in charge of https://kissfm.md and the channel @kissfm was waiting to be integrated with this site. So tell me more about your certainty!
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