We Indians take it for granted, but UPI[1] is a brilliant system. We make payments for something as small as ₹1 if needed. Transaction of ₹10[2] for a cup of tea is a very regular and ordinary happening. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Payments_Interface 2. ₹10 is roughly $0.12 (as of today).
It is great but require private defaults. Cred recently added support for adding alias instead of real name. Many UPI apps also associate your phone number automatically to your UPI ID so you are handing out your phone number whenever you pay.
Online card payments still suck
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
It takes time and effort to figure out if someone has robbed you. And sometimes it may go unnoticed for a while, and it happened to me at least once.
I thought of that, but with push/text notifications and easy to browse back websites, it is not really costly in terms of time or effort.
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#63The government can always make it worse. The EU removed my prepaid card simply because I refused to get a phone for it which was expected to receive some sort of permission for each transaction.
SCA is a big improvement for most people. Some card issuers don't require it done via a phone if that's important for you.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you from the US? I do know banks have special rules for US Persons, but I have no idea what kind of impact those rules have on opening a bank account.
> Are you from the US? Yes. Most people seem to blame FATCA, but while it's a pain in the ass for me personally, no bank I've ever used has blinked at it. They just ask for my SSN and a declaration of tax residency and move on.
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#65I'm still disappointed every time I try to order something at a webshop and they don't support iDeal[0]. That's how online payment should work. Of course it's only a Dutch system, so it's not going to be supported by all international webshops (although Steam does), but if anyone has the scope to introduce a more secure form of online payment, surely it's Visa and MasterCard? Why don't they introduce an iDeal-like pa…
Yeah, we had an overwhelming majority of Dutch users using iDEAL to a point that we didn't see any decrease in sales when we had our credit card payment gateway down. I believe you need to sign up with a Dutch acquirer/CPSP to get iDEAL payments sorted out, so there is an entry barrier for many international shops to accept iDEAL payments. This is pretty much the same for other payment providers such as CB, UPI, Lank…
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
SCA is a big improvement for most people. Some card issuers don't require it done via a phone if that's important for you.
For most, but not anyone like us who has no mobile reception.
Presumably if you're initiating an online purchase, you have access to WiFi?
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#67I'm still disappointed every time I try to order something at a webshop and they don't support iDeal[0]. That's how online payment should work. Of course it's only a Dutch system, so it's not going to be supported by all international webshops (although Steam does), but if anyone has the scope to introduce a more secure form of online payment, surely it's Visa and MasterCard? Why don't they introduce an iDeal-like pa…
You may want to mention that no small store accepts visa/mc in NL :) Apparently because the commission is sky high. In other parts of the EU that's been regulated and I can buy as low as two apples with a credit card. If you're a tourist in NL, bring cash.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought of that, but with push/text notifications and easy to browse back websites, it is not really costly in terms of time or effort.
And what about the inconvenience of not having access to your money until the dispute is resolved?
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
You may want to mention that no small store accepts visa/mc in NL :) Apparently because the commission is sky high. In other parts of the EU that's been regulated and I can buy as low as two apples with a credit card. If you're a tourist in NL, bring cash.
Did this change recently? I had no problem paying with my German Maestro/EC for everything a couple of years ago. (Just like in most European countries, really)
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're still paying for the cost of fraud, so it's not really someone else's problem.
If I do not have a choice to pay a lower price without fraud protection, then it makes no difference. If the merchant charges extra for credit card purchases, then it becomes something to consider.