right may be the server down or maintenance..all over the globe issue is raising
Maybe they needed to restart BEAM.
WhatsApp goes down for users globally
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#62Coincidental timing for me- anecdotally I noticed a few WhatsApp commercials during the Monday Night Football game last evening. Meta was hyping up how its end to end encrypted. That’s the first time I have seen national tv adverting for WhatsApp. There also were commercials for Meta’s new headsets so maybe it was part of a larger spend.
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#63Time to talk about matrix.org and Element not Signal and definitely not Telegram...
Why not Signal?
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#64Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally
#65Seems like a good time to plug Session: https://getsession.org/ Open source, doesn't require a phone number, and a big strength is that it's decentralized, which makes it much less vulnerable to outages like this. "Session utilises the decentralised Oxen Service Node Network to store and route messages. This means that unlike P2P messaging applications you can message Session users when they are offline. This network…
I supposed it's a Matrix client, but couldn't find anything by glancing the home page. Btw, the whole idea of "no phone numbers" makes it really hard to spread. It basically means you can't send a message to anyone in your address book that already has Session installed, unless you get his Session username by other means.
It's a fork of the Signal client but instead of the centralized Signal back end, uses the decentralized Oxen Service Node system to relay messages.
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#66Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally
#67Time to talk about matrix.org and Element not Signal and definitely not Telegram...
Why not Signal?
Because it can suffer the same problem WhatsApp had, because it's centralized. If something on their infrastructure goes down, it might have consequences for all users. This is not the case for distributes solutions like Matrix. (I actually use Signal, though, and not Matrix, because the latter, although it has many advantages, has a relatively bad UX compared to Signal, or at least used to, and it's hard to get contacts to get to use it...)
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#68That's why centralization is bad, especially for now-become critical services such as WA.
The world can go a few hours without WhatsApp. If it's that important, just pick up the phone.
It is not presently possible to make PSTN phone calls to several of the people in warzones with whom I use WhatsApp to communicate.
IP networks have much more reach than the PSTN these days. It's not 1995.
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#69Time to talk about matrix.org and Element not Signal and definitely not Telegram...
Why not Telegram, it has by far the best UX of all chat apps.
Moving to another centralized service is just getting on the same wagon again. 'email' doesn't go down, that's not even a coherent concept.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not Signal?
Because it can suffer the same problem WhatsApp had, because it's centralized. If something on their infrastructure goes down, it might have consequences for all users. This is not the case for distributes solutions like Matrix. (I actually use Signal, though, and not Matrix, because the latter, although it has many advantages, has a relatively bad UX compared to Signal, or at least used to, and it's hard to get cont…
Centralized management does not mean centralized infrastructure. Any of these systems could distribute the APIs and message delivery infra across multiple independent jurisdictions, regions, and providers, and do clientside load balancing.
The fact that these systems are centralized in management does not mean that they need to have any SPOFs.
Also, the Apple App Store and iOS activation servers are the biggest SPOFs of all. Without them, even with a brand new working device, you can't activate it or install apps to communicate.