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Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by rickmb »

Pewpewarrows wrote: post #17

I'll just leave this here for everyone saying that iPad-like designs never existed before the iPad: http://gdeluxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/20111004-03455...

What I see is an excellent example of how tablets before the iPad did not look anything like the iPad, and those after have clearly been inspired by it.

Then again, this kind of design-blindness doesn't surprise me. There are constantly people claiming that certain laptops and phones are equally well-designed as Apple products. There is clearly a large group of people who cannot see the difference.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by Bratwurst »

Pewpewarrows wrote: post #17

I'll just leave this here for everyone saying that iPad-like designs never existed before the iPad: http://gdeluxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/20111004-03455...

Your example doesn't go back far enough.

https://www.msu.edu/~luckie/gallery/images/2kopen.jpg

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by ricardobeat »

blhack wrote: post #60
ricardobeat wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what the JooJoo originally looked like (2008): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2689708043_3afee5af69_o.... This is what a 1st gen iPod touch looked like in 2007: http://media.gdgt.com/img/product/1/101/ipod-touch-1st-gen-3... On top of that, designs aren't pulled from thin air, you can subtract at least 1-2 years from the launch date.

What's your point? The only difference between the the 2008 Crunchpad/JooJoo and the iPad is the color black.

The original iPod touch and iPhone came out in 2007, were in the making for a bunch of years, while the JooJoo was only starting as a concept in 2008.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by Steko »

blhack wrote: post #46

Oh for frak's sake, Apple. This design came out before the iPad and looks identical to it. HN readers, you especially should know about this since it was all over the front page forever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JooJoo Here's an article from June 2009 that you could almost literally just swap the word Apple and iPad into. http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/03/crunchpad-the-launch-protot...

Newsflash: Apple's design patents were filed before the iPad shipped, some as early as 2004.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by mbell »

quizbiz wrote: post #22
Pewpewarrows wrote: post #17

I'll just leave this here for everyone saying that iPad-like designs never existed before the iPad: http://gdeluxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/20111004-03455...

haha. Here's another version of it: http://osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tablets-befor...

That one doesn't separate before and after, it separates industrial and consumer.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by 9oliYQjP »

Apple didn't give design advice to Samsung because they're arrogant. It's because for them to argue that their patents are being infringed, they have to point out alternative designs that could have achieved the same effect.

IP laws are screwed up, but a lot of people are jumping on this bandwagon out of ignorance. It's like people who get mad because a brand comes down hard on folks using their trademark. It's a legal requirement that they enforce the trademark, otherwise they lose it.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by Terretta »

blhack wrote: post #60
ricardobeat wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what the JooJoo originally looked like (2008): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2689708043_3afee5af69_o.... This is what a 1st gen iPod touch looked like in 2007: http://media.gdgt.com/img/product/1/101/ipod-touch-1st-gen-3... On top of that, designs aren't pulled from thin air, you can subtract at least 1-2 years from the launch date.

What's your point? The only difference between the the 2008 Crunchpad/JooJoo and the iPad is the color black.

I think his point is the original JooJoo design, which he provides, looked a lot less like the iPad.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by tlholaday »

devenson wrote: post #54

The appearance of TV's have converged upon the current form of minimalism and simplicity given the current technology available--all screen, small black border. Isn't this simply what's happening in the tablet market? Why must the courts protect consumers from potential confusion among competing tablets but not among competing but similar looking TV's? Seems like an abuse of the legal system, which has soured me to A…

Do you have any evidence that the European design laws were intended to protect against consumer confusion? All the evidence I have seen is that the laws were intended to protect designers of a product sold in country A from copycats in country B. That way you can start on a small scale in Denmark (say), and if it catches on, ramp up and sell throughout the EU.

Re: Apple Never Designed the iPad - They Undesigned it

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Post by Terretta »

Bratwurst wrote: post #62
Pewpewarrows wrote: post #17

I'll just leave this here for everyone saying that iPad-like designs never existed before the iPad: http://gdeluxe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/20111004-03455...

Your example doesn't go back far enough. https://www.msu.edu/~luckie/gallery/images/2kopen.jpg

I'll warrant quite a few HN readers weren't born when Apple started investing in tablet computing.
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