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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
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That places better than SF exist and people are moving to them.
Why is everything “better” or “worse”. City vs. City. This is such a lame argument and only feeds whoever is seeking validation that they live in right place
It's personal preference but (to pick an example) many other large cities in the US have both lower crime and lower cost of living. For some folks those attributes weigh heavily in the mix of things they think make a city "good". Other people have other preferences.
I live in SF, but I absolutely understand why many people think other places are better for them.
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#63It's just part and parcel of living in a big city.
Tell that to residents of Las Vegas or Tokyo.
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#64What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying
I lived in NYC for ~7 years and never had anything stolen.
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#65There's an important line that SF has not crossed (yet): murder still causes police response. In a decade or so, it will be like most large Latin American cities: murder will cause same lackluster police response as currently car break-ins do. Rich will have their own security, and poor will be afraid to walk after dark.
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Copaganda, a shorthand for the tendency of police communications officials to make wildly false statements to influence public opinion, is indeed a real issue.
What does it have to do with an opinion poll like this though?
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#67Reading this headline I thought to myself, this can't be possible. But then I remembered I got two packages stolen in two different neighborhood of the city, and during NYE someone broke the door of the backyard to probably see what they could steal there.
I thought the same thing then remembered that my car has been smash and grabbed not once, but twice
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San Francisco: We're Totally Surprised That Failure to Enforce Laws Leads to Lawlessness
Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says
#69I mean if a single package being stolen from your porch counts, then I'm surprised it isn't higher over five years . And porch pirates abound in suburbia too. The actual scary thefts are home breakins and muggings. I feel like the headline wants you to think it's those, when it's mostly stolen packages or something.
"There are lies, damn lies and then statistics"-- Mark Twain
EDIT: I'm not claiming for or against this specific article, just saying people need to be wary when reading such statistics as there are lot of parameters that influence such a headline number
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#70What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying
I don’t think I’ve had any theft incidents in many years in Seattle.