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The FDA has officially declared a shortage of Adderall

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Re: The FDA has officially declared a shortage of Adderall

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Post by rtev »

gregoryl wrote: post #49
rtev wrote: post #47

While this is too bad, maybe it will push people toward effective alternatives. Monoamine oxidase inhibitors help me more than ADHD stimulants ever did, and they aren’t known to be neurotoxic like Adderall.

Maoi have serious side effects, dangerous interactions with other drugs (and food!) and have withdrawal effects. These do not combine well with ADHD symptoms, and are not a first line treatment for a good reason.

They also don’t cause emotional flattening or weight gain like every other mental health medication. On top of that, they’re some of the most effective medications available, commonly polled much higher than SSRIs, SNRIs, or tricyclics.

Setting aside blue cheese and kombucha was an easy choice for me.

Re: The FDA has officially declared a shortage of Adderall

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Post by navjack27 »

braingenious wrote: post #15

I’m kind of surprised by this. I thought a lot of folks switched over to Vyvanse over the past decade.

I can't do Vyvanse. Lasts too long. I take 2x 30mg instant release mixed amphetamine a day. Well, usually just one a day but I'm prescribed two.

Not everyone needs long lasting meds.

Re: The FDA has officially declared a shortage of Adderall

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Post by FooBarBizBazz »

34679 wrote: post #17
voidwtf wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an unfortunate point of view and is damaging to those legitimately suffering with issues related to ADHD and similar diagnoses. As a child I struggled with ADHD, it’s not a state of mind. It’s not a decision. It’s a chemical imbalance that make a child’s innate lack of self control, and poor ability to self regulate something as simple as idle movements, orders of magnitude more difficult. I’m not commenting…

> I’m not commenting on over/under diagnosing of ADHD, I’m commenting on a condition that some individuals legitimately deal with. Some find themselves unable to focus on tasks, or get labeled the weird kid in their peer group because of behaviors they don’t even realize they’re doing. I'm of the opinion that there's nothing wrong with that. I lean more towards the acceptance side of things. Humans are diverse in man…

I was bored as fuck as a child in school, and very nearly ended up with an ADHD diagnosis. The eventual "cure" was honors classes.

Re: The FDA has officially declared a shortage of Adderall

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Post by gregoryl »

rtev wrote: post #61
gregoryl wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maoi have serious side effects, dangerous interactions with other drugs (and food!) and have withdrawal effects. These do not combine well with ADHD symptoms, and are not a first line treatment for a good reason.

They also don’t cause emotional flattening or weight gain like every other mental health medication. On top of that, they’re some of the most effective medications available, commonly polled much higher than SSRIs, SNRIs, or tricyclics. Setting aside blue cheese and kombucha was an easy choice for me.

None of those medications are primay treatments for ADHD, nor do the side effects you list map to Adderal or Ritalin, which are.

I'm glad your sample size of 1 MAOI use is working well, but your statements are at best uninformed, if not blatantly spreading misinformation.

Re: The FDA has officially declared a shortage of Adderall

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Post by rtev »

gregoryl wrote: post #64
rtev wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also don’t cause emotional flattening or weight gain like every other mental health medication. On top of that, they’re some of the most effective medications available, commonly polled much higher than SSRIs, SNRIs, or tricyclics. Setting aside blue cheese and kombucha was an easy choice for me.

None of those medications are primay treatments for ADHD, nor do the side effects you list map to Adderal or Ritalin, which are. I'm glad your sample size of 1 MAOI use is working well, but your statements are at best uninformed, if not blatantly spreading misinformation.

You’re right, it’s not scientific or authoritative information. Anecdotally, though, MAOIs solve my attention issues where Ritalin and Adderall failed.

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Post by TurkishPoptart »

emptysongglass wrote: post #54
rtev wrote: post #47

While this is too bad, maybe it will push people toward effective alternatives. Monoamine oxidase inhibitors help me more than ADHD stimulants ever did, and they aren’t known to be neurotoxic like Adderall.

I was going to say the same thing but for Modafinil. It has been demonstrated to be not only non-neurotoxic but neuroprotective, you don't need to sleep sixteen hours when you cycle off, and it doesn't change your personality. I'm diagnosed ADHD and Modafinil has been saving my life (defined as my ability to hold a high paying professional job in tech and provide for my family) for a decade and a half.

is adderall neurotoxic and modafinil neuroprotective?

Re: The FDA has officially declared a shortage of Adderall

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Post by peyton »

opportune wrote: post #8
peyton wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the argument for OxyContin was two-fold and targeted at doctors: 1. “Pain is the fifth vital sign.” You are a Bad Doctor if you do not consider pain. 2. OxyContin is not habit-forming.

1 is a little more complicated. I believe as part of the ACA hospitals were actually evaluated on subjective pain management as reported by patients with financial implications if it seemed pain was not being managed. Also, a lot of people got started on Oxy after a surgery in which they were given it on their way out. They either started taking it and liked it, or didn’t take it and possibly had it diverted to acqua…

This was 15 years before the ACA
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