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This sounds great, but I would expect a discount larger than $80 for purchasing a refurbished product. In particular, I'm looking at the 11th gen DIY units at: https://frame.work/marketplace/laptops
This sounds great, but I would expect a discount larger than $80 for purchasing a refurbished product. In particular, I'm looking at the 11th gen DIY units at: https://frame.work/marketplace/laptops
New 11th gen DIY units don't appear to be sold at all, so not only are they refurbished, but also discontinued.
A keyboard with full sized arrows, dedicated pgup/pgdown, 3 physical mouse buttons and a trackpoint, I'm begging you, please.
Yes. I'm looking forward to the "framework 2". What's the point of having four interchangeable ports when my daily driver laptop already has 3 type-A, two type-C, an SD and microSD reader, and HDMI-out all at the same time? Give me the cool shit , Framework. Gimme a module that's actually a bluetooth mouse. Gimme a module that's just a horizontal stack of like six USB2 ports. Gimme an ethernet port and a serial port.
For someone with a smaller set of peripherals and working mostly mobile, it might be worth it - if they were fine with the non-customizable aspects such as the trackpad and keyboard. But I'm not one of those people.
I am really tempted to get a Framework laptop. Has anyone real world stories about using it with Linux (specifically Fedora)? Thanks in advance.
I've been using a Framework 11th gen for work since I think May with Fedora (currently using Fedora 37 beta). For context, half of the time I use my laptop for meetings and video calls, the other half it sits on a stand plugged via USB-C to a LG 4K monitor where I've plugged my keyboard and mouse (it also charges my laptop). The two major downsides of this device in my opinion: - the battery life is terrible. If I'm…
I am really tempted to get a Framework laptop. Has anyone real world stories about using it with Linux (specifically Fedora)? Thanks in advance.
I installed a Crucial P5 SSD in mine, and it caused Linux to crash on waking from sleep. I switched to a different brand and now it's fine. There are several mentions of this problem in the Framework forums, and one of them is from me.
The battery life is not great. I haven't run Windows on the laptop to compare, but I've heard Linux is less good at managing laptop battery life.
What frustrates me the most is that Gnome and KDE have no way to control the trackpad scroll speed under Wayland! Not the pointer speed, the scroll speed. It's a really weird thing to have missing from a desktop environment in 2022 and the default speed is annoyingly high.
KDE also still does not support the fingerprint reader for logging in. Apparently this has been a known issue for years.
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They could fit 4 USB-C, or 6 MicroSD, or 12 headphone jacks! But none of that really matters. The elegance of the original model is that you get 4x Thunderbolt 4-capable ports that can run at full-speed and easily interface with any standard USB device. Sure you could add more ports, but you're just diluting the speed of the interface and adding more steps between your device and the laptop's IO controller. > the fac…
> Did you look? I did look. Did you? That thread is a year of people speculating about if this would even be possible and a few prototype renderings. There is no evidence in that thread that anyone has even created a physical prototype, much less an actual working adapter. > The elegance of the original model I don't want elegance. I want sustainability, repairability, linux compatibility, and more than four ports. E…
So... You wanted every other laptop? I'm glad I can have 4 fully capable thunderbolt ports on my laptop (and probably don't want or need half the things you think are "standard"), and unlike what you're asking for here, which is the norm in the industry, that's basically not available on any other laptop.
If you just want a relatively fixable standard laptop that's what ThinkPads are for.
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I've been using a Framework 11th gen for work since I think May with Fedora (currently using Fedora 37 beta). For context, half of the time I use my laptop for meetings and video calls, the other half it sits on a stand plugged via USB-C to a LG 4K monitor where I've plugged my keyboard and mouse (it also charges my laptop). The two major downsides of this device in my opinion: - the battery life is terrible. If I'm…
Are you on the latest firmware? People are saying the overheating was patched around 3.06/3.07, but it'd be good to know if that didn't fix it for you.
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> Did you look? I did look. Did you? That thread is a year of people speculating about if this would even be possible and a few prototype renderings. There is no evidence in that thread that anyone has even created a physical prototype, much less an actual working adapter. > The elegance of the original model I don't want elegance. I want sustainability, repairability, linux compatibility, and more than four ports. E…
> I would have much preferred if they had maybe 1 or 2 TB4 expansion slots, then take those other 40Gbit/sec TB4 pci-e lanes and have a bunch of standard ports that are easily replaceable on the motherboard So... You wanted every other laptop? I'm glad I can have 4 fully capable thunderbolt ports on my laptop (and probably don't want or need half the things you think are "standard"), and unlike what you're asking for…
Stop misrepresenting my position. I want repairability and more than four ports. Every other manufacturer (including Lenovo) just gives me more than four ports but no repairability. Framework gives me repairability but only four ports.
I'm a Thinkpad fanboy and have owned literally dozens of Thinkpads. I've enjoyed the ability to swap out parts for the same model. But Lenovo has steadily been going down the Mac route of sacrificing repairability for design and thinness. They are even exclusively soldering RAM and wifi for a lot of their current gen top of the line laptops. And when they update the CPUs for a new generation, they also change a lot of things in the case and peripherals, so it is almost impossible to put a 12th gen Intel motherboard in a laptop of the same model with a 11th or 10th gen Intel motherboard. Hats off to framework for following through with their motherboard/CPU upgrade.
It was never easy to replace ports on a Thinkpad motherboard. I tried and failed to replace the barrel power socket of my X220 Thinkpad because I was clumsy with the soldering iron and had to just get another motherboard. I get the benefits that if your port on the outside of the expansion slot breaks due to cable stress, etc., you can easily swap it out. But imagine something like a pogo pin solution, where you have a standard set of ports on one side (2x USB-A, 2x USB-C, HDMI, SD card, ethernet), but if the port connector breaks, you can unseat the connector from the motherboard and replace it without soldering. Then on the other side, you have to TB4 expansion slots with all the benefits that I recognize come from that approach. Best of both worlds! Why not?