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Terminal.Gui: A Cross Platform Terminal UI Toolkit for .NET

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Re: Terminal.Gui: A Cross Platform Terminal UI Toolkit for .NET

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Post by xupybd »

hazrmard wrote: post #23

Looking at the demo images, I must admit that I have some traumatic memories associated with that shade of blue on a console :) Mostly from fiddling with BIOS settings etc. My only experience with C# is in using the Unity 3D game engine. Now with a console apps ecosystem, cross-platform focus, GUI libraries, machine learning stuff, mobile apps. It's becoming an attractive prospect by the day.

F# is even better. It is an amazing fun and productive language to work in. At the end of the day a language is just a language, but much the a keyboard some are more comfortable than others. I find F# very comfortable. C# is also very nice to work in. C# is probably a better choice as you spend less novelty points.

Re: Terminal.Gui: A Cross Platform Terminal UI Toolkit for .NET

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Post by lostmsu »

cek wrote: post #48
lostmsu wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main way I navigate these days is global search through Everything. File operations apart from saving and opening files are extremely rare, and I just do them from PowerShell via command history.

Do you happen to use "F7 History" [1] which is based on `Out-ConsoleGridView`, which, in-turn is built on Terminal.Gui? If not, why not? (Because I'd love to make it even better). [1] https://github.com/gui-cs/F7History

I use PowerShell's standard F8, which autocompletes commands from history.

Re: Terminal.Gui: A Cross Platform Terminal UI Toolkit for .NET

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Post by int_19h »

hazrmard wrote: post #23

Looking at the demo images, I must admit that I have some traumatic memories associated with that shade of blue on a console :) Mostly from fiddling with BIOS settings etc. My only experience with C# is in using the Unity 3D game engine. Now with a console apps ecosystem, cross-platform focus, GUI libraries, machine learning stuff, mobile apps. It's becoming an attractive prospect by the day.

Blue background was a very common convention for DOS TUI. I'm not sure which app started it, but it was seen in MS-DOS editor / QBASIC; Norton Commander and its numerous clones; Turbo/Borland Pascal and C++; Microsoft C, Pascal and VB for DOS; FoxBASE / FoxPro; and so on.

Re: Terminal.Gui: A Cross Platform Terminal UI Toolkit for .NET

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Post by sixothree »

malkia wrote: post #57
hazrmard wrote: post #23

Looking at the demo images, I must admit that I have some traumatic memories associated with that shade of blue on a console :) Mostly from fiddling with BIOS settings etc. My only experience with C# is in using the Unity 3D game engine. Now with a console apps ecosystem, cross-platform focus, GUI libraries, machine learning stuff, mobile apps. It's becoming an attractive prospect by the day.

And to me the opposite - Turbo/Borland Pascal/C++, or the E3 editor. Okay, turns out blue is not great color for you - but that was the "dark" theme at the time.

Agreed and this library definitely sparks joy; especially since I was looking for something just like this recently for a quick project.

Re: Terminal.Gui: A Cross Platform Terminal UI Toolkit for .NET

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Post by int_19h »

myth2018 wrote: post #56
jabart wrote: post #28

About four years ago I had a meeting with a distributor who had terminal app and wanted to move it to a web based app. Everyone had the keyboard shortcuts memorized and did a quick demo that the refresh rate of the monitor was not fast (only slightly joking here) enough to go through all the screens they did for each task they had to do in this system. Interesting that this could be a useful replacement for something…

In my country (Brazil) I sporadically meet people using TUI-based systems. Mostly COBOL but also a good amount of Clipper (or Harbour, maybe?). I'm also aware of a couple of companies maintaining systems in Harbour and my parents use a web app written in Pascal -- I could tell by the error messages, which are extremely rare btw; the system is very stable, despite the frequent changes it goes through thanks to the tax…

It would be more interesting to dive down and figure out what exactly the users like more about TUI. Just speed alone can't be it, because e.g. WinXP-era UI is blazing fast on modern hardware (and was plenty fast even back then). And if we know what it is, we can build GUIs that are just as efficient, but that also offer e.g. better text rendering etc compared to TUI.

I once had an interesting experience migrating users from a TUI to a GUI app, ~20 years ago. In that case, after watching them work for a while and asking some questions, the takeaway was that they really wanted the flow to be 100% keyboard-based. Which the GUI apps nominally provided (back then; less so these days), but all too often the correct tab order etc is ignored in practice, making it very difficult to use.

I made sure design the GUI with keyboard in mind, and that common patterns they've learned from TUI would still work. For example, the TUI had a textbox above a listbox, and it was common for users to press arrow-down to navigate from the textbox to the first item in the list, and arrow-up to navigate from the list back into the textbox. This isn't normal behavior for GUI, but I coded it in anyway.

Re: Terminal.Gui: A Cross Platform Terminal UI Toolkit for .NET

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Post by airstrike »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #11
VikingCoder wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know you're joking, but I wish I had client-server support with xterm.js or something similar. I'd like to write MUDs (Multi-User Dungeon games) in C#...

iirc most MUDs use telnet, so any user can use whichever client they prefer - I'm sure there's ways to have xterm.js use telnet. There's this project that is a MUD using Telnet written in C#: https://github.com/cmackles/MudSharp

What we really need is a MUD that is fed through StableDiffusion -> NeRF and outputs a 3D map for you to play in

https://github.com/ashawkey/stable-dreamfusion

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