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Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by tharkun__ »

lbriner wrote: post #17

What I find shocking about this, as with many other examples from Meta, Alphabet, Amazon etc. is that many of the complaints are things that small companies justify as "yes, but small team". In other words, our 3 developers don't have the time to refactor this API heavy interface because we are struggling with company growth. When you have the size and money of Atlassian, that excuse is pathetic. Yeah we have 3000 De…

I think you're hitting on something there. I think most of those big companies are struggling to provide meaningful changes because they are too big and there is no trust. Trust and actually knowing your sub-ordinates is replaced by tools and metrics. Those tools and metrics then drive exactly the opposite of the behaviour that you would want.

Large companies incentivise behaviour that overall make products worse and customers angry while showing super awesome metrics internally. While I'm sure such metrics are going to be causing some of the right people to get PIP'd and managed out they also disillusion the good people that were trying to do the right thing (or actually did do the right thing) but which didn't show up as the correct number on some dashboard that was used by the CTO and HR to fire the "underperformers".

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by iso1631 »

polotics wrote: post #40

JIRA sucks indeed, but I have seen worse. My pet peeve with Atlassian is that they purchased Trello, and I was really rooting for Trello to refresh the landscape....

Trello was a danger to Atlassian, thus it was bought. Basic capitalism, don't allow a competitor

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by iso1631 »

I find jira great, but we use it to track a task by adding comments to it, sometimes assigning it to ourselves, and then eventually closing it. Nonsense such as states and workflows and resolutions and priorities are meaningless distractions.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by kolanos »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #55
cpach wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly: Do you know of any wiki software that’s better than Confluence? I have yet to see one.

I would say Notion. Not sure if it's considered the same category

For a note taking app, Notion's accessibility is hilariously bad.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by ajgrover »

ilvez wrote: post #16
iamgopal wrote: post #5

What is the alternative? Basecamp ?

Article lists Linear. Can anyone share their experiences?

It’s been several years since I’ve used Jira so can’t give an honest head to head comparison, but my experience with Linear has been fantastic. Looks nice, has all the functionality I look for, enough customizability.

If you’re looking for something you can configure every little bit of for a very large team (like Jira) it may not meet your needs, but otherwise I highly recommend.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by y42 »

It's like people conplaining about SAP. SAP also is hard to implement, because it's hard to map "loosy" business processes to a perfectly integrated and managed system.

Yes, Jira can be pain in the ass. Because you are not able to adapt your workflow. Jira offers a thoughtful solution to manage your progress and processes.

The problen sits infront of the display.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by pentagrama »

I use Jira and agree with some things on the article, but for other client I have to use Azure DevOps and please give me Jira.

Also other thing from this articles "I hate [tool]" is that many people just don't like their job or are burned out, the hate may be coming also from that, not only for a poorly designed tool.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

kolanos wrote: post #64
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say Notion. Not sure if it's considered the same category

For a note taking app, Notion's accessibility is hilariously bad.

I don't disagree, I haven't checked myself so I can't say, however I'm missing how is this related to the "being a wiki" comment I posted

Re: Happy 20th birthday Jira You suck so bad

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Post by 9wzYQbTYsAIc »

LilBytes wrote: post #53
9wzYQbTYsAIc wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SharePoint?

I can only infer that you've never used SharePoint. As both a user and both as a Product or Project manager, it's worse in almost every metric. Atlassians products sick but they're strides better than their competitors which says more about the industry than anything else.

I can infer that you may not have used SharePoint recently or any of the Azure project management suite.

That ecosystem has gotten drastically better in the past half decade.

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