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Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

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Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

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While this is legal, Nintendo is very vocally anti-emulation. Nintendo and Denuvo announced anti-emulation measures for switch games in August 2022. There's a big difference between support and marketing support. Nintendo doesn't care what other companies do internally, but cares a lot about what is shown publicly. I remember when Nintendo took down a bunch of youtube videos showing how to jailbreak the original switch. Nintendo isn't coming to PC anytime soon though, so I can't imagine this having any major impact, but it is bad manners. Video and thumbnail edited out Yuzu.

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

#62

Side note, is anyone using one of these as a daily driver computer for development? The specs look decent enough and the price is cheaper than a laptop.

Is it cheaper than a laptop? For $400 you can get a pretty good chromebook that has a full size screen and keyboard.

That said, it would probably work so long as you connected an external keyboard.

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

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post #51

Oddly enough, the light that Humble Bundles have shone into gaming revenue cycles has made me question our copyright system as a whole. Stay with me. In Europe during the time of Mozart, composers were incentivized to be prolific by only getting royalties off the first public performance of their works. Now that is not fair today because of course we can losslessy reproduce such things infinitely. However, Humble Bun…

In terms of moneymaking, copyright's long term is more relevant for video games in that it includes the right to make derivative works (i.e.: sequels). Certainly there are franchises that have lived longer than 20 years.

Ports, remasters, official emulation, and subscriptions have given a longer "tail" for at least a handful of classics but even without that it's "the IP" that would be most jealously guarded.

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

#64

Side note, is anyone using one of these as a daily driver computer for development? The specs look decent enough and the price is cheaper than a laptop.

Not exactly, but I ssh'ed into my mine, because my sausage fingers couldn't handle messing around with correcting corrupted emudeck profile. It is basically a PC. It ran Kingdom Come and CP77 well with heatwave being the only apparent notable side effect. I am sure people will soon be posting all sorts of weird deck setups:>

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

#65

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The more emulation becomes mainstream the more money Nintendo will invest to illegalize it. You cannot legally get roms of commercial games, even if you own the game. Breaking of DRM is automatically copyright infringement according to the DMCA.

They can invest in it but they cannot predict the outcome. I'd like to see DMCA go up against property rights.

It is a big gamble. I mean, if any company can pull it off now, it is Steam. It has money, position and fairly vocal customer base, but are you sure this would be enough to stave off a relentless swarm of lobbyists descending upon WH?

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

#66
post #59

Side note, is anyone using one of these as a daily driver computer for development? The specs look decent enough and the price is cheaper than a laptop.

Cheaper than a laptop? You could get a cheaper laptop with better or equal specs if you buy used or get something from a previous year. A lot less hassle than trying to get something on custom hardware to run with no real upside.

Used T480(s) T490(s) is starting at 400-500€

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

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Emulation has been deemed legal? Since when? You're not paying for the system or the games and playing them freely?

Emulation is legal. Freely sharing roms of copyrighted content isn't. You can dump a cartridge you own and emulate it on a device you own.

It's weird because the system costs money too

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

#68
Emulation aside, the Steam Deck has been compared to the Switch in some capacity or another in almost every single review I have ever seen of it. While I wouldn't think it's had any negative impact on Switch sales, it's a absolute fact that the Deck can emulate a multitude of games at performance parity or better than the Switch itself. The deck is constantly lauded as an emulation powerhouse and the Switch appears frequently in the discourse.

Emulation legality aside, Nintendo would certainly be the company I would expect to pressure Valve for a case against enabling and abetting piracy given their history of legally attacking perceived "competition".

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

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post #51

Oddly enough, the light that Humble Bundles have shone into gaming revenue cycles has made me question our copyright system as a whole. Stay with me. In Europe during the time of Mozart, composers were incentivized to be prolific by only getting royalties off the first public performance of their works. Now that is not fair today because of course we can losslessy reproduce such things infinitely. However, Humble Bun…

In terms of moneymaking, copyright's long term is more relevant for video games in that it includes the right to make derivative works (i.e.: sequels). Certainly there are franchises that have lived longer than 20 years. Ports, remasters, official emulation, and subscriptions have given a longer "tail" for at least a handful of classics but even without that it's "the IP" that would be most jealously guarded.

I think it'd be a stretch to say sequels are covered by derivative works. Trademark would be the primary protection and would function for sequels with no copyright protection at all.

Re: Valve's latest Steam Deck trailer briefly plugs a Nintendo Switch emulator

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no one really believes that.

In the same way that nobody torrents linux isos? Just because it's less popular than other uses doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

No, in the way that advertising that your product can play a few homebrew games when it already can play thousands of Steam games makes no sense. It's obviously to hint at playing Nintendo titles.
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