Duh. What else would you expect when fertility rate is so low. It is either depopulate or bring in new people.
Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
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Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#62I am sure a number of people will make comments here pointing to Canada’s struggling healthcare system as a direct effect of these immigration numbers.
I just want to point out that the current and recently re-elected Ontario government (representing 14.5 million people) is currently running a $2b budget surplus [1] while simultaneously capping healthcare workers’ pay raises to just 1% a year [2] in a time of record inflation. That is to say: you get what you pay (and vote) for.
[1] https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/1002311/ontario-releases-...
[2] https://toronto.citynews.ca/2021/11/15/bill-124-ontario/
Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#63Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…
So build more houses and train more doctors then? Seems weird to hate on immigrants and say your country is overpopulated (it isn’t)
They don’t even need to train mor doctors. Canada imports a lot of medical professionals as part of their immigration programs. However due the CMA regulations, they cannot practice in Canada even if their degree is from an accredited university.
Even doctors trained in developed countries like UK have no guarantee that they will be approved to work in Canada as noted on the BMA’s own website [1].
On top of that most medical professionals moving to Canada are not from highly developed but rather developing countries and they spend years just trying to get their license and give up in the end .
https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/career-progression...
Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#64Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…
> We have way too many people! We're one of the least densely populated countries in the world with one of the lowest birth rates in the world. If you don't think immigration makes sense for cultural reasons that's fine, but with respect to healthcare and housing don't be under any illusion -- reducing immigration would exacerbate these issues by giving us an even more heavily aging population.
Total population means less than growth rate. The country may be sparsely populated but construction is the main bottleneck. It’s hard to spit out hundreds of high rises quickly enough.
Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like you're not very familiar with canada. We have a very narrow populated strip within about 50-100 km of the us border, and then a vast uninhabitable area in the north. Overall population density is a meaningless metric
That’s because all 38 million comfortably fit in those places. There is plenty of inhabitable land between Toronto and the frozen northern lands.
There's nothing there. Canada has one road linking every city together (well, except TO).
Imagine Iowa, but emptier.
Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Chinese buyers would simply buy them all with cash and rent the, back to you
That’s cool, build more of them then and pocket the cash. Free money and property taxes for your local economy. Is “Chinese buyers” supposed to sound scary or something? Honestly this reeks of xenophobia.
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Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#67Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…
And who is going to work in Tim Hortons(or take care of your elderly parents)? At least in Montreal, due to stuff shortages many Tim's are half closed with huge lines or drive throughs only. I have never seen anything like this. Also on Monday are elections in Quebec and all they can talk is about immigrants and how to limit immigration(Quebec has a separate immigration program).
The huge lines are more due to the insane menu Tim’s has right now. It’s far too complex and requires endless context shifting from workers. The workers at my local Tims have been complaining about it for a long time.
The half closed ones though? Yah, that’s a worker shortage. My local one started by closing the dining area and then started closing at 8PM simply because they can’t staff it. Of course they can’t, they only offer minimum wage.
Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#68Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…
> We have way too many people! We're one of the least densely populated countries in the world with one of the lowest birth rates in the world. If you don't think immigration makes sense for cultural reasons that's fine, but with respect to healthcare and housing don't be under any illusion -- reducing immigration would exacerbate these issues by giving us an even more heavily aging population.
> We're one of the least densely populated countries in the world
There’s a reason most Canadians live close to the southern border. Most of Canada’s territory isn’t particularly friendly to large-scale human habitation.
Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#69Canada has an immigration rate 10x the rate of the US but any discussion of lowering this is considered racist. I have a top 5% income but I will never own a house in my life and can’t access a family doctor. We have way too many people! The population is expected to be 50% foreign born or children of immigrants by 2040 and it’s already majority foreign born in our biggest cities. I honestly don’t expect this country…
How did you get 10x? Because the numbers this article talks about includes temporary visa like student visas.
Looking at US stats (2018 numbers):
- 500k immigrant visas (green cards)
- 9M non-immigrant visas minus 6M B1/B2 visitor visas
So each year, it totals about 3.5M, which is ~10x Canada, so not that far off per capita.
You could argue that staying in Canada after arriving with a temporary visa is much easier than the US, which is true.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/v...
Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022
#70I am sure a number of people will make comments here pointing to Canada’s struggling healthcare system as a direct effect of these immigration numbers. I just want to point out that the current and recently re-elected Ontario government (representing 14.5 million people) is currently running a $2b budget surplus [1] while simultaneously capping healthcare workers’ pay raises to just 1% a year [2] in a time of record…
Also, immigrants probably disproportionately staff our health system.
Our immigration system heavily favours educated professionals with job offers.