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Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by rasz »

hawski wrote: post #54

Is there video conferencing software that does spatial audio for conferences? What I have in mind is that it is often problematic to understand each other while multiple people are talking. It is much easier in person. I guess it all goes down to ability to focus on directial cues of an audio source. Currently everyone are placed inside one's head so they interfere much more this way.

You could give up on audio portion of your current Video conferencing setup and just install Teamspeak with spatial plugin https://www.myteamspeak.com/addons/9ddfa0b2-25c2-4302-8a43-0...

Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by salawat »

sabjut wrote: post #13
pen2l wrote: post #5

Created a few years ago by Jean-Marc Valin of xiph/mozilla (who by the way is also the author of Opus codec among other things): https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/rnnoise/ Overview of RNNoise from the horse's mouth is here: https://jmvalin.ca/demo/rnnoise/ Used as a Wasm module! In some ways the web is becoming more opaque. Is this the future then, a hodgepodge of binaries doing things behind the scenes? Though in this ca…

Is this a troll comment? Yes, wasm works based on a compiled binary, just like any other program written in a compiled language in the past 50 years. You try to suggest that everyday users of the web are just going into the js sources of webpages and understand whats going on. With the plethora of libraries, frameworks and static optimization used in todays websites, normal people can't really dissect the inner worki…

...I still dissect website code, thank you very much. Basically have to do it just to figure out quirks I'm constantly running into.

Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by andrepd »

Kwpolska wrote: post #7
tbalsam wrote: post #3

Very very good, a little bit of stuttering during the honking I think but I like it overall! :D :) Jitsi Meet has been a great alternative to other meeting apps in these crazy times.

My experience with Jitsi Meet has been quite bad. My previous employer was a cheapskate, and they self-hosted Jitsi Meet. Random disconnections and instability were pretty much a daily occurrence, some people were disconnected every few seconds. While I suppose the self-hosting by Cheapskate Inc. was the main culprit, Jitsi’s screen sharing wasn’t looking very good.

So someone hosted $software on a shitty server, and you blame $software for the shitty performance? To draw any conclusions you should look at meet.jit.si (hosted by Jitsi), no?

Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by wrp »

tbalsam wrote: post #3

Very very good, a little bit of stuttering during the honking I think but I like it overall! :D :) Jitsi Meet has been a great alternative to other meeting apps in these crazy times.

I've been using Jitsi Meet regularly for about a year. It's usually fine, but on some days I experience disconnections every several minutes.

Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by kragen »

maven29 wrote: post #27
troyvit wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't suggest the web is doomed, just that more aspects of it are opaque. I don't think they're talking about every day users of the web either, but rather nascent developers. The early web was a great equalizer. Anybody could study a little html, download an ftp manager, jump through a few procedural hoops and have a web page. After some studying and trial and error they could even build an interactive site.[1…

Are modern-day "no code" tools like Webflow not an acceptable equivalent? We already lost any semblence of building from scratch in the mid-2000s with the emergence of gargantuan HTML templates and Wordpress/Drupal/PHPbb deployments with plugins and themes. This is a direct result of people being held to higher standards and thus spending a lot more effort overriding the compositional and behaviour defaults of the us…

No, an environment for writing new code is not any kind of equivalent for the ability to reverse-engineer existing code. Firebug and its clones are a much closer equivalent than anything like WebFLow.

Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by pen2l »

nikvaes wrote: post #50
pen2l wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have any involvement with Jigasi or might be in the know -- are there plans to use whisper, for instance, instead of Google's API for transcription? If I recall correctly jigasi is using google's API, local transcription aligns well with the rest of Jitsi's missions.

The problem for Jigasi's speech-to-text feature with Whisper - or any recent SOTA speech-to-text neural networks, is that they are transformer-based. One of the key features of transformers is that they are very good at processing a sequence with the attention mechanism. But attention inherently needs to see the whole input sequence. So it's difficult to adapt these architectures to perform well in real-time scenario…

Yes! But a part of the Jitsi ecosystem enables recordings and whisper is a good candidate to use for these recorded sessions.

On that topic — they record sessions in an interesting way, basically an instance of chrome is started and captured... I think with OBS. That always made me raise an eye but I also can’t think of up a better way.

edit: It's actually jibri which has to do with recording. Gosh I wish the names were a liiiittle more intuitive. :)

Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by d110af5ccf »

gnicholas wrote: post #55
hawski wrote: post #54

Is there video conferencing software that does spatial audio for conferences? What I have in mind is that it is often problematic to understand each other while multiple people are talking. It is much easier in person. I guess it all goes down to ability to focus on directial cues of an audio source. Currently everyone are placed inside one's head so they interfere much more this way.

Apparently FaceTime offers this. [1] Presumably Apple will allow other companies to do it as well, since they let them offer spatial audio in other contexts. 1: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/change-the-audio-sett...

Why would Apple need to allow it? It's simply a matter of a given program postprocessing the various audio streams appropriately prior to muxing them for output.

Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by 0x457 »

api wrote: post #51
pen2l wrote: post #5

Created a few years ago by Jean-Marc Valin of xiph/mozilla (who by the way is also the author of Opus codec among other things): https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/rnnoise/ Overview of RNNoise from the horse's mouth is here: https://jmvalin.ca/demo/rnnoise/ Used as a Wasm module! In some ways the web is becoming more opaque. Is this the future then, a hodgepodge of binaries doing things behind the scenes? Though in this ca…

Most JavaScript these days is basically compiled binary. Rarely is it very human readable.

If you have human-readable JS, you either didn't write much or you forgot to minify it.

Re: Enhanced noise suppression in Jitsi Meet

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Post by midislack »

pen2l wrote: post #5

Created a few years ago by Jean-Marc Valin of xiph/mozilla (who by the way is also the author of Opus codec among other things): https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/rnnoise/ Overview of RNNoise from the horse's mouth is here: https://jmvalin.ca/demo/rnnoise/ Used as a Wasm module! In some ways the web is becoming more opaque. Is this the future then, a hodgepodge of binaries doing things behind the scenes? Though in this ca…

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