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BD took ages to be were they are right now. I actually think Tesla showed more than I expected. At least we now start the rat race for robots.
That rat race started like 30 (40?) years ago in Japan.
Up and running android, big money, fast development.
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I mean.. checking out twitter, there are just hundreds of people, at least, who were just blown away by this janky nonsense and the "fact" that tesla will "ship millions" of these this year "for $20k." There's some kind of mass delusion going on.
> tesla will "ship millions" of these this year Just like million robo taxis in 2020 :-)
The Tesla Robot was underwhelming. I appreciate the engineers on stage highlighting their work, but it all felt a generation behind Boston Dynamic’s efforts.
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I look at that and I want a self driving car by Tesla. Did you see the rest of the presentation about their self-driving tech? This was amazing by this with the short time it's been in development, and the vision for this project is beyond anything that has been done with humanoid robots. Sure they might fail, but it's an exciting venture to follow.
Have they driven from LA to NYC as Elon promises they would by 2019? Are Model S owners making more money than they are paying in leases thanks to lending their cars as auto cabs like Elon promised they would by 2020? Is hyper loop even a thing or just something Elon admitted was something he came up with to try and kill public transport alternatives? The Boston Dynamics Robot is far more of a commercial reality than…
Why do people only ever compare Tesla efforts to Elon expecations.
How many other companies have cars driving around in pretty much every environment on north America? Their competitors have a totally different approach and limit themselves to a few fixed locations that they map out in extreme detail first.
If you take all self driving cars in the world and put them at random locations in the US and tell them to drive somewhere I don't think any company will do better much better then Tesla.
I'm not really a fan of self driving but just clowning Tesla for not reaching the goals set by Elon isn't really interesting or insightful.
> Is hyper loop even a thing or just something Elon admitted was something he came up with to try and kill public transport alternatives?
Hyper loop was never a product. Musk even explicitly stated that it wouldn't be a product anytime soon. He explicitly state they did some evaluation on it and would release an engineering blue paper. This was literally stated outright at the time.
I really don't get the logic 'I wont do X but I find X interesting' and the response a few years later is 'Fuck you, you promised to do X and it didn't happen'. Like that makes people sound insane.
And he never said it was to kill public transport. That was a single news article where a journalist took Musk words out of context to spin his own story.
And people who think California High Speed Rail is failing because of Musk is fucking delusional anyway.
> The Boston Dynamics Robot is far more of a commercial reality than the CyberTruck if you really want to put things in context.
That is totally absurd comparison that makes no sense and illustrates nothing.
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It was underwhelming, but it's to be expected for 1 year of work. This is also an electric motor robot vs pneumatic actuators from BD.
Choosing the wrong technology and failing to make it work is not an accomplishment.
In most other places we are switching away from hydroponics because electronics are getting so advanced.
Electronic actuators is defiantly cheaper and simpler so for a consumer product its seems to be the right choice.
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Yes, a bit underwhelming, but it's a recruitment event and you've got to start somewhere. Question is how fast and if they can catch up with BD in terms of control.
I assume they’ll catchup as fast as they catch up with their FSD to Waymo. Which is driving customers for years, while Tesla’s FSD cannot go without intervention for more than few miles, at best, in any more complex environment. And yes, I know Waymo uses HD maps and limited geo area. So does Tesla, and they’re explicitly mapping and testing areas driven by popular influencers. And it’s assuming that there’s actually…
This seems like a nonsensical swing at Tesla. They have literally 100000s of people on the road with FSD in all of the US.
Claiming that its a few influences is just outright lying.
You are also totally wrong in your understanding of how Tesla FSD works. They are not mapping those areas, save those maps and make them available to other cars. That is explicitly not what they are doing.
More accurate to say that they are building a training set with the input from 100000s of cars driving around literally all over the US.
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It seems strange that this comment was so aggressively down voted. Anything related to Elon gets the same treatment by HN that I feel that Elon invites a visceral rather than an objective reaction.
Because Elon is snakes oil salesman, who thinks he’s smartest and most important human in the history. He also happens to have some very successful products, that his fan base uses to silence any criticism.
You realize that makes no sense?
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He's generally a force of good for the world but can come over as a bit of a dick sometimes, there are much worse people out there if you need to hate on someone.
I don’t know. Richest person in the world, whose ego is only thing bigger than his wealth, is pretty good person to direct at least some hate at. And while some of his lies are just to kill competition/extract money from the rich (like FSD), but some are just disgusting. With neuralink he was openly telling people for few years that his implants will solve their health issues. Implants that killed most of the monkeys…
He has invested mostly his own money in that.
Are you claiming there is no medical use what so ever for the technology they are developing?
Based on what knowlage do you make that claim?
> Implants that killed most of the monkeys in the labs.
What data is that based on?
> It’s disgusting to lie to people with really serious health conditions, give them false hope and likely have them reject other treatments, because Elon said he’ll fix them.
What? I have heard most of Neurolinks presentation and not a single time did Elon ever suggest that people just delay other treatments. Neurolink has clearly mostly done animal trials and product demonstrations.
I at least have never heard Musk claim that Neurolink would have a product on the market within a short time period.
Please provide sources for these claims?
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When shopping carts were introduced into stores people were angry because it would “take away the jobs of the employees shopping for you”. That’s obviously ridiculous. They went and did more productive things in the store. The same will apply here.
He's literally talking about eliminating jobs from the Tesla factory in Fremont. And then he takes a further step and discusses in eliminating all manual labor. I think it's reasonable to consider the chance a fully mobile non-human humanoid will actually disrupt labor more so than the invention of a shopping cart. I'm talking about marginalized people who are under educated and have very good reason to believe that…
Literally no invention, not this robot by Tesla certainly, would ever have even 5% of the impact the tracks and other farm tools had.
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He's generally a force of good for the world but can come over as a bit of a dick sometimes, there are much worse people out there if you need to hate on someone.
I don’t know. Richest person in the world, whose ego is only thing bigger than his wealth, is pretty good person to direct at least some hate at. And while some of his lies are just to kill competition/extract money from the rich (like FSD), but some are just disgusting. With neuralink he was openly telling people for few years that his implants will solve their health issues. Implants that killed most of the monkeys…