Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day
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Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone that wants to keep Germany off Russian gas no matter the developments.
But who is that? Ukraine should be fine with having Germany buy Russian gas since Germany keeps sending arms and push others to send arms. I don't see why the US would care either now that Germany is finally moving away from Russian gas. And Russia can just close the pipeline in a less destructive way.
>But who is that?
The USA has long wanted to interfere in Germanys' relations with Russia and has done so, over and over, to ensure they are never true allies.
So, it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume the US is behind these attacks.
Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anyone that wants to keep Germany off Russian gas no matter the developments.
But who is that? Ukraine should be fine with having Germany buy Russian gas since Germany keeps sending arms and push others to send arms. I don't see why the US would care either now that Germany is finally moving away from Russian gas. And Russia can just close the pipeline in a less destructive way.
No pun intended but it seems to be a measure to make sure europe doesn't get cold feet politically if their feet get too cold in the winter. Either way it is debilitating to Russia because it impedes their main path to raise revenue to prop up their currency, as the only way to buy gas from russia is rubles. Russia's Ability to transport LNG by ship is abysmal compared to Nord Stream.
Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
But who is that? Ukraine should be fine with having Germany buy Russian gas since Germany keeps sending arms and push others to send arms. I don't see why the US would care either now that Germany is finally moving away from Russian gas. And Russia can just close the pipeline in a less destructive way.
It can be anyone. Could even be a private person. But yeah its definitely not Russia.
Russia isn't exactly homogenous; satellite states aside even core Muscovite populations are divided in opinion on war and Putin - even if not exactly vocal.
This could range from a small group staging a false flag to push Putin further (he is a surprise moderate of the extremely hawkish Russsian elements) to a different small group staging some form of protest by sabotage .. to any other ridiculous scenario imaginable.
Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day
#65> before Moscow sent its troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24. Do we really need to smooth "Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24"?
Do we really need to embellish reality with trigger-words designed to be as inflammatory as possible? What do you want - even more outrage?
Since when is the truth a trigger-word? Wtf? They started a war. It's not "triggering" to state the facts.
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#68Who would benefit from this?
The US has the capabilities and an objective interest in destroying Nordstream 2. Both Trump and Biden have made threats and sanctions directed to Germany over the pipeline. However the current German government is highly atlanticist and was nowhere near reopening Nordstream 2. So it would make little sense for such an extreme move.
"nowhere near reopening" indeed strong words...
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