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Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#61

Post by squeaky-clean »

da768 wrote: post #12
gkhartman wrote: post #8

If a display manufacturer produced a quality display and supported something like this, I wouldn't mind paying a good deal extra for it. I wouldn't even mind if it shipped with a proprietary OS and I had to do the installation myself. I'd love to see Framework or Purism make a Linux powered smart TV.

NEC has commercial displays with builtin Pi CM4s. https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays/ma551-mpi4...

I'd be willing to pay that much if image quality was similar to (or slightly worse) consumer TVs of the same price.

I'm sure smart TVs make some money off data tracking, I know it's a part of Roku's business model. But I feel like most of the additional cost in this went to the "commercial grade" features. It can be left on at full brightness for months on end. It can probably withstand a kick from a teenager at the mall. The 3 year commercial warranty also probably has some actual urgency behind the support.

Do any non smart models exist that aren't targeting commercial usage? It's probably not practical, thr market for that is probably 0.01% of the total TV market.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#62

Post by ghostly_s »

All this promotional glitz, but no information to indicate this actually currently is usable on a single consumer streaming device or smart tv, let alone the particular one I have. A minute spent on the pages of their linked distros seems to confirm it's vaporware.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#63

Post by rascul »

jaimex2 wrote: post #50
rascul wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does Kodi bypass ALSA?

He's talking about the embedded Kodi derivatives. (CoreElec, OpenElec, LibreElec etc) They run their own audio stack.

I would really like to know more about this, and I can't seem to find anything about it. Are these projects implementing their own drivers for all the various audio hardware they can use instead of using ALSA? That certainly wasn't the case some years back when I used OpenElec.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#65

Post by djbusby »

jacknews wrote: post #49

Does it have widevine for netflix etc al, and hardware media acceleration? I tried using an rpi4 as a media player a few months ago, and it was simply not fast enough, although one reason is I could not get HVEC hardware acceleration to work. I reverted back to using an old T430 laptop with a broken screen and k/b, which is ideal for 1080p.

I use the pi for storage (external 4TB USB) and minidlna to show on network. Playable by VLC, Roku and other DLNA aware devices. The RPi is headless.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#66

Post by xwdv »

At first I got excited that maybe someone finally developed a modern TV with no Smart TV features at all but nope it’s just linux crapware I’ll never use because I just plug in an Apple TV box anyway.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#67

Post by djbusby »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #61
da768 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NEC has commercial displays with builtin Pi CM4s. https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays/ma551-mpi4...

I'd be willing to pay that much if image quality was similar to (or slightly worse) consumer TVs of the same price. I'm sure smart TVs make some money off data tracking, I know it's a part of Roku's business model. But I feel like most of the additional cost in this went to the "commercial grade" features. It can be left on at full brightness for months on end. It can probably withstand a kick from a teenager at the…

There are loads of non-smart large displays on Alibaba. Just a dumb display with two HDMI and and DP maybe.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#68

Post by djbusby »

jaimex2 wrote: post #51
andy_xor_andrew wrote: post #17

Given the Steam Deck runs KDE, I'm surprised I don't see Valve down on the list of patrons at the bottom of the page. Seems like this type of functionality/framework could be beneficial to the Steam Deck, since anything that looks good on a 10-foot display should also look good on the Steam Deck's display.

SteamDeck already does what this does and more though.

Is it known if Valve is contributing things they've improved/fixed upstream.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#69

Post by throwawaylinux »

andrew_ wrote: post #35
lordofgibbons wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>not to mention the harsh centered shadow, is an immediate turn-off. Unfortunately it’s 2022 and linux design standards are still nowhere to be found. I honestly can't fathom how people can complain about a free software that protects your privacy and gives you full control of your purchased hardware. If some overflowing text, harsh shadow, or whatever is a show-stopper, preserving your privacy wasn't that high of a…

> It's a free and opensource project. Feel free to open a PR or bug report. This isn't and never has been protection from constructive criticism. Nor should it be. Choose to ignore it, or dismiss it, sure. But belittling valid criticism is a bad look.

Complaining about UIs on forums that the people responsible for the issue will likely never see is not and never has been constructive criticism.

It's a gripe, or a whinge, which is fine and open source shouldn't be immune to it. Although I will say that open source projects in my experience tend to be much more responsive to bug reports and actual constructive criticism from people paying them $0.00 than proprietary software projects are.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

#70

Post by monocasa »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #41

The killer feature of Kodi (on most hardware, for example the Raspberry Pi) is that it can switch the output resolution to match the video you are playing. It also bypasses things like ALSA in order to be able to bit-bang audio in supported formats directly to an external receiver. These are basic functions of normal video playback devices like blu-ray players or cable boxes. A Plasma skin can't do any of this. So wh…

You don't typically don't want to switch output resolution to match the resolution of whatever your outputting on modern displays, but instead want to match the panel resolution and software scale the content. You're way too likely to confuse the monitor trying to match resolution. There's something to be said for matching frame rate, but there's even more dragons in that practically.
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