Tangentially related, but lately Okta's sales people are cold messaging random engineers on LinkedIn with spammy garbage. Fix your OKRs
Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
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Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cuba exports terrorism and misery across the region. The dictatorships in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua fly under the radar these days, but are no less noxious to humanity than the regimes in Russia, Iran, NK, etc. You can argue whether or not sanctions are an effective way to promote regime change, or if they just hurt the regular citizens of rogue governments. I think they are often quite ineffective. But there's…
Cuba's biggest export is effectively doctors. But, sure, buy into decades old anti-communist propaganda!
> Cuba's biggest export is effectively doctors.
I find it highly amusing how "exporting people" is suddenly portrayed as being an achievement, as if being exploited as an indentured servant is something praiseworthy in the 21st century.
In other contexts this is referred to as human trafficking and exploitation, but being Cuba this is suddenly something to brag about?
I lived in a country where the national health service resorted to hiring cuban "doctors" to fill in vacancies in deserted areas. The Cuban regime ripped them off out of a big chunk of their pay, they had no right to work beyond the job program, the national certification board had to bend over backwards to allow cuban doctors to practice as all they had was a mere 4 year degree whose scientific basis was questionable, and their role in the healthcare service was basically triaging patients to hand over cases to other doctors.
The "Cuba exports doctors" myth doesn't hold to scrutiny. I guess that even Dr Nick Riviera is a godsend in third world countries where people have to walk for hours to get basic medical care, but let's not pretend that Cuba does not coherce undereducated professionals to play a role whose value-added is highly dependent on the development status of the country that pays for this service.
Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#63Oh, nice, my company is just integrating Okta. Is Cuba still being punished for daring to host Soviet missiles? I think the way we've treated them is really terrible.
Cuba exports terrorism and misery across the region. The dictatorships in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua fly under the radar these days, but are no less noxious to humanity than the regimes in Russia, Iran, NK, etc. You can argue whether or not sanctions are an effective way to promote regime change, or if they just hurt the regular citizens of rogue governments. I think they are often quite ineffective. But there's…
Yeah... They fought against apartheid in South Africa while US fought to keep apartheid... They fought for Africa independence while the west wanted to keep their colonies... It's Cuba exporting terrorism and misery... Not forgetting how US recently destroyed the country with highest HDI in Africa, how CIA is a terrorist organization that blows up people with impunity around the world...
Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#64- "The Office of Foreign Assets Control ("OFAC") of the U.S. Department of the Treasury administers and enforces economic and trade sanctions based on U.S. foreign policy and national security goals against targeted foreign countries and regimes, terrorists, international narcotics traffickers, those engaged in activities related to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and other threats to the national s…
E.g. United States have withdrawn their signature from International Criminal Court and will refuse (and actively oppose) being bound by ICC sanctions.
Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Cuba exports terrorism and misery across the region.” ::walks away whistling hoping you don’t notice Iraq and Afghanistan’s blown up weddings::
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes Feel free to start a discussion on US aggression, if you honestly feel strongly about it. Otherwise you're blatantly trying to whitewash decades of systematic oppression from totalitarian bloodthirsty regimes, and in the process support all the human rights violations they're continuously subjecting their population to.
So Okta and the US in general should also enforce similar sanctions on pretty much half of the planet, starting with Saudi Arabia. :o)
Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#66It's sad that people in occupied regions of Ukraine are punished twice, by Russian government and by US government too.
They had plenty of time to move to whatever they prefer - unoccupied territories of Ukraine or legitimate territories of Russia. As far as I know they traveled both ways routinely but returned voluntarily every time.
> As far as I know they traveled both ways routinely but returned voluntarily every time.
That's of course per-24-feb open russian invasion of those regions. There's been some people such as visiting their elder relatives during winter holidays and now stuck there.
I wouldn't say for removing ocuppied regions of Ukraine from the list but instead adding aggressor to it.
Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#67I run a USA based SaaS and was mistakenly caught up in Auth0's 'sanctions'. 0. Production servers deleted 1. No logs, notifications or any indications of the issues 2. Can't get ahold of support on the free plan 3. Spend 1-2 weeks frantically trying to restore access to our customers 4. Find a random Auth0 support thread of someone who had the same issues 5. Auth0s response was to submit an affadavit to their legal t…
Insance.... what's next, I ate a Cuban sandwhich last year and posted it on instagram so GAFA will arbitrarily deplatform me ?
Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#68Oh, nice, my company is just integrating Okta. Is Cuba still being punished for daring to host Soviet missiles? I think the way we've treated them is really terrible.
No, I think the sanctions came from expropriating US property without restitution.
Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#69I run a USA based SaaS and was mistakenly caught up in Auth0's 'sanctions'. 0. Production servers deleted 1. No logs, notifications or any indications of the issues 2. Can't get ahold of support on the free plan 3. Spend 1-2 weeks frantically trying to restore access to our customers 4. Find a random Auth0 support thread of someone who had the same issues 5. Auth0s response was to submit an affadavit to their legal t…
Automated enforcement is evil and must be banned (except in situations when the violations themselves mostly are automated and come in unbearably huge quantities).
Banning automated enforcement is also the end of free and maybe even cheap services on the Internet.
Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk
#70My view on this from the United Kingdom: I have no vested interest in any of the territories listed nor do I support them in any way, but my business should not be subject to the whims of overseas powers and foreign policy.
In response to this announcement I've closed down my Auth0 experiments. I refuse to be held to US enforcement when I operate outside US jurisdiction. I know other SaaS will follow suit, but we have to oppose this somehow.
As far as I'm aware, the UK does not have any sanctions imposed against Cuba for example, so Auth0's active stance on this is inappropriate for those outside US border.