Looks like this is related. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32834988
worth pointing out, that while the timing of these two articles might make you think that, cost increases in light of the broadcom acquisition seems far more likely.
Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
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Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried to follow the advice. It's clearly someone who is working with computers and for a long time. The comments are touching various topics (from tech to society to random stuff) and it's likely that the person is behind a keyboard, not on a mobile phone: comments are rather long on average. That's quite compatible with sysadmin psychological profile. Hard to say for sure, but at least I am confident that the OP i…
On the other hand, this comment is sus: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/x0w8sz/it_vs_infr...
how so?
Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#63The idea that Fortune 500 CEO's are cold-emailing companies to ask about assistance in re-platforming VM's is plainly ridiculous.
Leadership taking a strategic decision to shop around for options following the VMWare price increase isn't so crazy. In fact, I'd say it's expected.
Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#64Possibly related to recent VMWare SEC fraud charges
Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#65This is Reddit, so taking any claims with a severely hefty earth sized grain of salt.. > Odd part 1: ... moving large numbers of VMs (100,000-500,000) over to Linux based virtualization in very short time frames. > Odd part 4: Every one of these requests involves moving the VMs off VMWare or Hyper-V onto OpenShift, specifically. As a Solution Architect at Red Hat, no sane sales rep would ever recommend or propose mov…
> We are working on making OpenShift Virtualization as capable as we can (considering we're killing the Red Hat Virtualization product [upstream project: oVirt]) but it's not really meant, especially right now, to be a VMware replacemen Didn't know RHEV was being killed. It makes sense, the enterprise virtualisation market is shrinking by the day, but it's still a bummer there's less competition. Is oVirt being maint…
>Didn't know RHEV was being killed. It makes sense, the enterprise virtualisation market is shrinking by the day, but it's still a bummer there's less competition. Is oVirt being maintained?
With the release of RHV 4.4 a few years back, it's become the last RHV release and will be maintained until its EOL in 2024 (ELS 2026). Like any open-source project, oVirt will be maintained by whoever wants to work on it, be it Red Hat engineers, other virtualization organizations, or just random contributors. But RH engineers won't be payrolled to work on oVirt on a daily basis.
> Nope. Nutanix is for when you want to replace your hardware and software, have specific workloads that fit a hyperconverged hardware deployment, want a good piece of software with a ton of extras that don't really work all that well, being bash and random FOSS smushed together with duct tape. Oh, and you have money to burn.
I don necessarily disagree, I was just pointing out one commercial virtualization solution that theoretically could operate large scale deployments. I don't typically see alternate products like Proxmox come up often in discussions (I honestly only know one person personally using it), but virtualization isn't my forté either, so there's that.
Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can actually see this happening. Obviously a fortune 500 CEO does not know jack about IT. But someone has raised the alarm on the price hike and presented a few possible solutions, that have reached all the way to the board. Given the high risk, tight schedule, and the amount of work something like this must be driven by the CEO (or at least directly sponsored by him) or it will not happen.
This is not from a fortune 500 company, but I know the CEO in a BIG oil & gas company and that CEO do in fact know a lot about IT & computer science. He is in fact a big fan of Neo4j, and gets really frustrated when he talk to software architects/developers that have never heard about neo4j or graph databases. He also knows about Linux and license free virtualization. But making a move requires people, and people wit…
I looked at your profile and was surprised to see we don't work for the same company!
Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#67This is Reddit, so taking any claims with a severely hefty earth sized grain of salt.. > Odd part 1: ... moving large numbers of VMs (100,000-500,000) over to Linux based virtualization in very short time frames. > Odd part 4: Every one of these requests involves moving the VMs off VMWare or Hyper-V onto OpenShift, specifically. As a Solution Architect at Red Hat, no sane sales rep would ever recommend or propose mov…
If you read it carefully, it's very clear that the poster is talking about multiple customers, not just one. A dozen or more companies (poster claims it's exactly 14) can move 100k-500k VMs in a short time frame, without killing anything. Otherwise, your concern would have been spot on.
I didn't see the 14 on my first read through last night (I read this at like 1:30 in the morning), but that would make much more sense. I interpreted the "some" as a handful at most, which is why I said "footprints" and not "footprint". Even in that situation, I would probably still recommend not going the OpenShift Virtualization route. Obviously these groups would have different deployment sizes, but I would still personally be wary of moving several thousand VMs to OpenShift as part of a cost saving measure if there wasn't an intent to migrate to containers over time (based on the OpenShift Virtualization of today).
That's not to say it's not possible or a bad idea, just that each org would need to evaluate for themselves. We do have customers that have made this just and are running OpenShift clusters with >1k VMs on OpenShift Virtualization.
Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried to follow the advice. It's clearly someone who is working with computers and for a long time. The comments are touching various topics (from tech to society to random stuff) and it's likely that the person is behind a keyboard, not on a mobile phone: comments are rather long on average. That's quite compatible with sysadmin psychological profile. Hard to say for sure, but at least I am confident that the OP i…
On the other hand, this comment is sus: https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/x0w8sz/it_vs_infr...
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Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#69This is Reddit, so taking any claims with a severely hefty earth sized grain of salt.. > Odd part 1: ... moving large numbers of VMs (100,000-500,000) over to Linux based virtualization in very short time frames. > Odd part 4: Every one of these requests involves moving the VMs off VMWare or Hyper-V onto OpenShift, specifically. As a Solution Architect at Red Hat, no sane sales rep would ever recommend or propose mov…
So OpenShift virt replaces oVirt? What was the reason for dropping oVirt?
Remember, oVirt an upstream virtualization project, the product we derive from it is Red Hat Virtualization (RHV). From the development and deployment side of things, Red Hat has chosen a direction that is primarily container based going into the future, betting a lot of this on OpenShift. This decision was made a few years ago before anything with Broadcom/VMware was occurring.
OpenShift Virtualization (based on KubeVirt) exists to provide a path of migration for "legacy" VM environments to containers, allowing admins to maintain one platform in a consistent manner (Kubernetes resources) while giving the teams that can to evolve their applications to containerized deployments.
I believe there are plans to get the management capabilities of RHV into OpenShift Virtualization, I'm not quite sure how far that's gotten. In terms of virtualization solutions from Red Hat, we have the following:
- KVM on RHEL. With the announcement of the RHV EOL, we removed the restrictions on how many guest VMs you can run simultaneously on RHEL. Note that this is different from the RHEL for Virtual Data Center (VDC) subscriptions we sell; it's just the removal of the contractual limitation, it doesn't entitle your guests.
- Red Hat OpenShift Virtualization: already discussed.
- Red Hat OpenStack: If you need to be running a broad private cloud platform that has a virtualization component.
Re: Sudden disturbing moves for IT in large companies, mandated by CEOs
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I think the hint is that something is going on here. Like possibly a national security issue of some kind. 'We' are at 'war' with Russia, after all.
I've no information on what's going on, or even if anything's going on. Other than today's SEC announcement of fraud findings: https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/12/the-sec-revealed-today-tha... > That said, I'd keep an eye on any future 0-day announcements ... if there's anything here, it has that kind of smell about it.
That's what I mean. And because it's CEOs and not CTOs it's likely a Zero-Day related to something geopolitical.
The West is at war, my downvoting detractors are naive to not contemplate that the world's #2 Army is not running shenanigans as they have literally publicly stated they would, and we have direct evidence to support it. And literally Biden gov. urging US businesses to 'patch up' at the start of the war. They are looking for whatever leverage they can. And there are other capable enemies notably China and North Korea.
If in fact this rumour is true, i.e. 'CEOs doing this at the same time' then this could very well be a national security issue.