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It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Never seen people make such a huge deal out of nothing like this before. Like this is borderline ridiculous. Its soo much easier to not get banned from something than is to. Literally just don't be an idiot. Its not that hard.

> Literally just don't be an idiot. Its not that hard. Kids are often antisocial and exhibit poor behavior. Kids also love Minecraft. Permanent, Microsoft-account level bans for questionable chat text is ridiculous.

I don't disagree there.

But I very highly doubt the ones doing all this complaining are actually kids.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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I don't know The Reason (probably child exploitation), but it's telling that within the first few comments people are discussing how to abuse the system to get Minecraft YouTubers deplatformed. The haters are in plain sight.

The culture of our timeline is based around disliking someone online and bringing real world consequences to them. Whether that is by getting them fired or getting them banned from services its the flavor du jour. To quote the big short - "They arn't confessing, they are bragging."

Some people dislike what Microsoft did with Minecraft online and want to make it so the service is shut down and perhaps costs jobs!

How the turn tables.

I guess people who like to use language that’s “bad” by traditional standards will have to build something new.

I see a difference between bad acts and bad language alone; people are trained to hate certain words but are powerless to prevent certain acts so low hanging fruit is over policed. It’s an outcome of human memory which is a feature of reality we can’t do much about to soothe those who fee oppressed by loss of a bit of figurative self (Minecraft no longer being “for them”).

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Never seen people make such a huge deal out of nothing like this before. Like this is borderline ridiculous. Its soo much easier to not get banned from something than is to. Literally just don't be an idiot. Its not that hard.

It's a big deal because Minecraft's server system is traditionally very decentralized. However, this change suggests that Microsoft now wants to increasingly centralize the game. Microsoft seems to be going against the game's original ethos.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Is it "their" platform if the server is hosted by people who are not them on hardware that is not theirs? They are just selling a license to use their executables, no? Or should be (I don't play Minecraft)

In the event of abuse, parents won't draw that distinction and neither would a Twitter mob. Microsoft needs to be able to point to something concrete they're doing to keep kids safe or they're risking a scandal.

A Twitter mob should not have that kind of power and if parents don't understand how Minecraft, the most popular game of the last decade+, works by now, they never will. It's appeasing a crowd that cannot and should not be appeased.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Minetest is probably the best Minecraft alternative; it's free and open source software, which avoids the danger associated with centralized retaliation systems like the one Microsoft is operating. Also, it's easier to write mods for, partly because mods are written in Lua, and you don't have to install mods on the client, just the server. https://www.minetest.net/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Fyav6FiIs The vide…

Minetest is like a platform, and for anyone wanting a Minecraft-clone based on it: https://content.minetest.net/packages/kay27/mineclone5/

Yup, though the guy who wrote that video liked MineClone2 better:

https://content.minetest.net/packages/Wuzzy/mineclone2/

MineClone5 is a fork of MineClone2, but both are popular and in active development, and because they're GPLed they can freely gank features from each other. They just have slightly different development priorities.

I think even the base Minetest Game is pretty Minecraft-like, though. Out of the box it doesn't have mobs, the Nether, portals, magic, or redstone, but you can add those a la carte to Minetest Game as mods, and there's a cooler redstone alternative called mesecons. You can see the mods at https://content.minetest.net/packages/?type=mod; most of them are applicable to Minetest Game. And in Minetest Game you can mine a lot deeper than in Minecraft. (You kind of have to, which might be better or worse.)

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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It does not surprise me that the right wing channers who started bae.st after getting banned from Twitter dislike the increase in moderation on other platforms. I'm no fan of Microsoft, but on the theory that you can judge a person by the quality of their enemies, Minecraft comes out looking positively beatific here.

The enemy of your enemy is really not your friend in this scenario.

Re: It seems that the good times for online Minecraft play are over

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Never seen people make such a huge deal out of nothing like this before. Like this is borderline ridiculous. Its soo much easier to not get banned from something than is to. Literally just don't be an idiot. Its not that hard.

If you are playing in a private server it should be up to that server to ban or not ban people, the same way if you are in a private bar it should be up to that bar to ban you from it because you use profanity.
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