Dear Oracle, Please Release the JavaScript Trademark

Post by colordrops » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 7:52 AM UTC

_ZeD_ wrote: post #26

thedebuglife wrote: post #15

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I believe ECMAScript is the specification of which JavaScript is an implementation.

I always have had problem with this definition... what do you mean by "implementation"? in my head "implementations" are "programs". Like... "C" is a specification, "gcc" is an implementation. "Python" is a specification, "CPython", "PyPy", ... are implementations. "ECMAScript" is a specification, "webkit", "spidermonkey", ... are implementations. "JavaScript" is a (trademarked) specification, and also "ECMAScript" a…

Post by bumblebritches5 » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 7:56 AM UTC

gumby wrote: post #12

Can’t you just call it ECMAScript, or are they somehow different these days? Guy Steele told me once that Sun registered it with ECMA so they could tell people (governments?) that it was a registered standard and that ECMA was the easiest/fastest/most compliant way to get there. I’d always thought that ECMA was a weird place to register it.

Post by jackblemming » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 8:02 AM UTC

simonh wrote: post #54

josefx wrote: post #38

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Post by NavinF » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 8:08 AM UTC

pvg wrote: post #24

gumby wrote: post #12

Can’t you just call it ECMAScript, or are they somehow different these days? Guy Steele told me once that Sun registered it with ECMA so they could tell people (governments?) that it was a registered standard and that ECMA was the easiest/fastest/most compliant way to get there. I’d always thought that ECMA was a weird place to register it.

Can’t you just call it ECMAScript We're at about the right point in the timeline to start calling it YavaScript which both solves the trademark problem and keeps us on the path laid out in prophesy.

Post by jillesvangurp » Sun, Sep 04, 2022, 8:15 AM UTC

bruce511 wrote: post #23

I feel like this isn't a problem that needs solving. The existence of a trademark doesn't prevent you using that trademark (as in referencing it like "this app is written in JavaScript".) Clearly Oracle is not defending the trademark, and it is likely its too late to start. Worst case they pick on you, you change your docs to say Ecmascript. Frankly it's safer where it is, than being released so the USPO or something…