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Political neutrality is important for the tech industry. I appreciate Cloudflare trying its best to be neutral. When harm is done, the fault lies at the feet of the perpetrator. Blaming their utility company, hosting provider, DNS registrar, grocer, butcher, barber, etc. is lunacy.
I note this one more time: almost no posts talking in favor of banning stuff here specify any objective limiting principle of where it should stop. It's like an exercise of deliberately creating a slippery slope.
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Pay per packet. I remember maidsafe was working on this for many years without much success. Then they got into crypto for micropayments a decade later and it all got a bit messy. Not sure how the project is doing these days but it was a solid concept at heart. https://maidsafe.net/ > legitimate customers who don't know the first thing about auditing their network for compromised devices An IoT device not suddenly wo…
So you want to put everyone on a metered internet connection? And then hit them with massive bills if they have a device that gets hacked? Seems unreasonable given the current state of security.
No, it means Cloudflare was helping keep his website up, in a neutral manner.
In other words, exactly what Cloudflare have stated their policy is.
Now if Cloudflare allowed him to run DDoS code on its Workers, then yes, that's Cloudflare helping him.
Very false equivalence.
This article seems to have been posted to make a false equivalence with the current Kiwifarms situation. There’s a pretty clear difference in urgency between taking down DDOSers and deplatforming a forum that is a gathering point for a mob engaging in mass harassment, stalking, and SWATing. One is a nonviolent crime. The other is a crime targeting an individual that had already escalated to the point of a high risk o…
Cloudflare still protects all those forums which harm people. Kiwifarms is the only one which was sensationized by the twitter crowd. Look at crime.to. They still send bomb threats [1], exchange stolen credit card data [2], harass people to the point where they lose their houses [3] (SWATing, breaking in into their house and much more included), and probably more on a daily basis. Still protected by cloudflare. Prett…
Kiwifarms just comes to mind for me because someone I know kill themselves and the site took a serious role in that. I'm sure I'd be disgusted, and advocate for the takedown of, many sites.
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Cloudflare is neutral... Unless you are 8chan, Stormfront, or KiwiFarms. It's an odd definition of neutrality that allows one to take decisive values positions.
I think it would be intellectually dishonest to imply that there is no objective “bad”. At some point it goes beyond yelling fire in a theater, into the realm of certain and immediate harm to the whole. We seem capable of recognizing certain actions and behaviors as universally abhorrent. Nobody can say “Cloudflare is neutral… Unless you are CSAM”, or “Cloudflare is neutral… Unless you are a live video feed of a mass…
More properly, they want to b political in some way without people being able to criticise them for it. "Neutrality"
What's at the heart of the entire Cloudflare situation is this discussion around the platform's alleged neutrality. I do not understand this at all. If I run a business, and I see that unambiguously bad actors namely abusers, criminals, stalkers, harassers or whatever use my services to facilitate their actions I have a very clear ethical obligation to step in. I don't go "well the law isn't here, it's not my problem…
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Cloudflare still protects all those forums which harm people. Kiwifarms is the only one which was sensationized by the twitter crowd. Look at crime.to. They still send bomb threats [1], exchange stolen credit card data [2], harass people to the point where they lose their houses [3] (SWATing, breaking in into their house and much more included), and probably more on a daily basis. Still protected by cloudflare. Prett…
There's something very wrong with the game community. I've learned enough during stupid internet fights I have had on reddit to never continue a conversation with an avid gamer, no matter the subject. Stories like this one you linked to on merkur.de (read via Google Translate, but I think they got it right) confirm to me that that was the correct call.
1. Lots of really nice people. I just spent an hour playing a game with a man in Brazil and we used Google translate to chat and teach each other our respective languages while we played.
2. It's actually really easy to get angry. Like, I'm an adult and even I have to be like "hey it's a game chill" to myself - I've never blown up at anyone but... holy shit, it's kind of insane how bad some people are lol. And it's frustrating. Like go to the objective, the game is literally blaring that you should go there, why are you going elsewhere????? over and over again.
With regards to gaming it's just a sort of "worst case" for human collaboration. It's fast paced, high pressure, and communication is both the most important part and also by far the hardest. It is absolutely no surprise to me, whatsoever, that anyone who plays a lot of video games might get angry easily.
Also, as someone who grew up very "on the internet", there's a lot of bitter and angry people out there. They're kind of relatable in a way. Like the whole "I want to fucking die" meme is sort of a meme but also sort of real and relatable, but when you smash that into your brain every day it stops being a meme, and I think that's the case with most irony poisoned internet discussions.
Political neutrality is important for the tech industry. I appreciate Cloudflare trying its best to be neutral. When harm is done, the fault lies at the feet of the perpetrator. Blaming their utility company, hosting provider, DNS registrar, grocer, butcher, barber, etc. is lunacy.
In the US at least, the getaway driver is to blame even if all they did was drive a car and receive payment for their driving