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Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

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Re: Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

#61
post #27

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>Everyone makes mistakes. Fully agree, which is why I said the same thing. :) >Granted, this is probably in response to some legal action either in progress or already settled, but what more do you want from the guy? As I said in my post, a stated awareness that he was used in a cyber blackmail scheme, and at least some nominal promise to try and be aware of that in the future. The difference here is between "I made…

I think it's obvious he's going to do something to avoid this happening again but also I highly doubt anything would be disclosed publicly about this. This isn't exactly a guy with a track record of not learning.

> I think it's obvious he's going to do something to avoid this happening again but also I highly doubt anything would be disclosed publicly about this. This isn't exactly a guy with a track record of not learning.

Sure, but part of a "mea culpa" is saying what's important to be said. Otherwise why say anything at all? Maybe he doesn't get it? Maybe he sees the facts differently?

Generally I agree with you, and think he's a smart guy who is likely aware of this. But by not touching on those lessons, he only weakens his message.

Re: Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

#63
post #33

Ubiquiti is so worried about suing Krebs meanwhile their brand reputation has turned to mud due to the quality of their products, both from my own experience and the general consensus I've heard online. If this incident had never occurred I still would have stopped recommending and using their equipment.

The problem from my end though is, who really competes with them? No one else offers the same level of control at the same (or even close) price point.

MikroTik

Re: Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

#64
post #53

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"This time, I missed the mark and, as a result, I would like to extend my sincerest apologies to Ubiquiti, and I have decided to remove those articles from my website." I think that's reasonable.

That seems like a statement not written by a lawyer. It’s possible he’s concerned about legal ramifications

I would be too. Millions of dollars where lost because he was a unwitting accomplice to a extortion scheme.

But lowering the bar to say "I'm sorry" when someone is obv incorrect is still a good thing.

Re: Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

#65
post #33

Ubiquiti is so worried about suing Krebs meanwhile their brand reputation has turned to mud due to the quality of their products, both from my own experience and the general consensus I've heard online. If this incident had never occurred I still would have stopped recommending and using their equipment.

The problem from my end though is, who really competes with them? No one else offers the same level of control at the same (or even close) price point.

I'm using the TP-Link Omada access points and router along with the software controller and it's pretty great.

Re: Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

#66
A bit of extreme ownership in the same vein as Jocko Willink is inspirational. It's not a reward or ego contest, when you have to open up and be humble about leadership and admission as such - so, critics will be on both sides of the judgement and the reporting.

I myself believe in being humble and honest to a fault, so I'm more sympathetic in this case.

Either way, strive to be better and hey .. humanity is a b*tch sometimes.

Re: Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

#68
post #3

this reads like he got out-lawyered here. context for the unaware: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/03/ubiquiti-sues-jo...

I wonder what has changed? The original thread discussing the lawsuit was filled with super dismissive comments, arguing that ubiquity lawyers were incompetent and had no actual way to win the case. Some of the commenters were supposedly actual lawyers too, so it's not even just the normal "terrible armchair law advice" we are used to from HN.

Re: Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

#69

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I think you're right, but it took me a few minutes to put my finger on what was missing. There should have been a "going forward I will..." segment.

What should he do going forward?

He should become immune to social engineering and manipulation... /s

Now seriously, there is not much he can do going forward other than be even more careful with vetting his sources. Which I am sure he already internalized.

Re: Final thoughts on Ubiquiti

#70
Ok no security breach. Can I set up a new ubiquity device without registering with them at all now?

Been told that you can delete the cloud registration after the set up, but that’s still unacceptable.

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