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“Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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A senior editor at a top-tier medical journal told me >5 years ago that they have hired staff dedicated to scrutinizing papers from two countries that have poor reputations when it comes to submissions. It's not just prestige and the career boost; in some countries there are monetary incentives associated with publishing in the top journals.

> in some countries there are monetary incentives associated with publishing in the top journals.

Meaning the authors get paid the more they publish?

How? Per paper or career advancements-->> higher salary?

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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For manual flagging, you can use Unfold Research to leave a review on the paper itself for anyone to see it, and you can add review tags and a description about what you think is wrong with it: https://twitter.com/UnfoldResearch/status/156099536649284812... Tools like scite ( https://scite.ai/ ) do automatic processing (NLP) of other papers and determine whether a reference relationships supports or rejects the paper…

Could manual flagging be abused by a country or agent against another country or agent in order to maliciously discredit papers from that target?

Instead of a flagging system ranking the credibility of papers once for everyone, can we have a system where each user decides which other users they trust to evaluate papers, and ignore any signal from untrusted users?

For example, I could L1 trust people to evaluate papers and the trustworthiness of other users, and L2 trust others only to evaluate the trustworthiness of papers. If I notice a spurious signal getting in, I can find out who it came from and prune my list of trusted users.

I imagine I'm not the first to think of this. Anyone know of reading material on the topic?

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could manual flagging be abused by a country or agent against another country or agent in order to maliciously discredit papers from that target?

Most definitely. An advantage of having open peer review system is also that this kind of attempts could be detected by tools doing automatic processing of scientific knowledge graphs generated by peer review activity. This, coupled with verification of users, should be able to minimize the risk quite significantly.

Seems to me that this wouldn't be enough in case of state actors or large organizations. They would just have to employ real people to carry the fake review bombs.

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which two countries? India and China?

"China tops U.S. in quantity and quality of scientific papers" - https://archive.ph/bemMy

The article measures the quality of papers produced by a country by the percentage of the world's top 1% cited papers they produced. This seems like it could be gamed.

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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Really the idea of publish or perish needs to be deemphasized. Someone in the Chinese government got the idea that publishing scientific papers is paramount, so Chinese scientists pump out papers, many having little or no use. I fear western researchers are in the same boat: Publish. Doesn't matter how good it is, how useful it is, just publish.

If there is a heuristic it's quantity. If a laboratory, person, or country is producing an inordinate amount of papers then perhaps it's a good idea to sample and test some of those.

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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Mentioned in TFA, the GRIM test for checking a paper’s reported mean of integers:

“”” The GRIM test is straightforward to perform. For each reported mean in a paper, the sample size (N) is found, and all fractions with denominator N are calculated. The mean is then checked against this list (being aware of the fact that values may be rounded inconsistently: depending on the context, a mean of 1.125 may be reported as 1.12 or 1.13). If the mean is not in this list, it is highlighted as mathematically impossible.[2][3] “””

Source: Wikipedia

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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Scientists are evaluated by how much they publish and how many times their papers are cited. There's no incentive to call others' scientists bullshit.

The ranking should assign the score of a paper that was debunked to the paper that debunked it - that would provide incentive to replicating famous sketchy-looking papers.

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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A good candidate could be Benford's law [1], which makes predictions about the distribution of digits. If the digits of the numbers found in the results section of the paper deviate too much from this law, it could be a red flag. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law

It looks more like the papers in question are taking a large public dataset and performing some statistical analysis on it, often along the lines of showing a correlation between metrics which represents pollution (like CO2 emissions) and metrics which represent economic growth. The source data is real, and the analysis is probably real too; neither is likely to trip Benford's law. The problem is that there's nothing novel being uncovered by these articles -- it will surprise no one, for example, to hear that China's CO2 emissions have risen in conjunction with their energy usage and economic growth (https://doi.org/10.1007/s11356-020-12217-6). Substituting China for Pakistan, or energy usage for foreign remittances, doesn't make for novel research; it's simply plugging in another set of numbers and turning the crank.

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could manual flagging be abused by a country or agent against another country or agent in order to maliciously discredit papers from that target?

Instead of a flagging system ranking the credibility of papers once for everyone, can we have a system where each user decides which other users they trust to evaluate papers, and ignore any signal from untrusted users? For example, I could L1 trust people to evaluate papers and the trustworthiness of other users, and L2 trust others only to evaluate the trustworthiness of papers. If I notice a spurious signal gettin…

The one thing I'm aware of is Brave's Goggles project: https://search.brave.com/help/goggles - it basically allows you to set up your own ranking algorithm with a specific syntax (it links to Github repo and, there, to a white paper).

I haven't seen more attempts at similar things, which doesn't mean they don't exist though. (There were mentions of a similar feature being added when Elon Musk was about to buy Twitter, but just gossips)

Re: “Is there a heuristic we might use to identify and flag questionable papers?”

#70
post #32

For non-experimental, non hard science, and based on the replicability studies of the last few years, and the things we have already known for a long time: I feel pretty comfortable with a prior probability of a paper's result being true positive at ~50%. For experimental, hard science, papers I still have a high belief, maybe 90%. After this I use the following heuristics: - => Lower belief + => higher belief effect…

You would assign a +++ score to a paper that says, for example, that certain races are genetically inferior and should be culled??

Imagine two papers of equal scientific merit: equally strong or weak evidence, equally rigorous or sloppy reasoning, etc. One of them finds that certain races are genetically inferior. One of them finds that democratic countries have stronger economies.

Which is going to have an easier time getting to publication?

If publication is in the Nazi Journal of Nazi Naziness, the first one will be easier to get published. If for whatever reason you're reading journals there, the second of those papers is the one you should expect to be unusually strong.

If publication is in Nature, they probably don't have a lot of Nazis on their editorial team. If that paper got published there, then probably something about it is unusually good somehow despite the unpleasant conclusion.

Caveats:

1. With a conclusion as horrifying as the one in your original question, though, I think it's fair to reason as follows: Even if the paper gave tremendously strong evidence for genetic differences between races, there's no way any sane editor would publish a paper that says the "... and should be culled" bit. Therefore, this paper was almost certainly railroaded through to publication by a crazy editor. Therefore, the fact that it made it is not evidence that anything about it is any good.

2. It's OK for your expectations of a paper's merits to be affected by how plausible you find its conclusions before you read it. Many "socially undesirable" ideas are that way at least partly because most people find them highly implausible, and if most people do then there's a good chance you do too, and if you do then it's fine for that to lower your expectations for the paper.

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