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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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post #18

This is good news for existing paying Heroku users. This is good news for Fly, Render, etc. This is bad news for Heroku in the long term. Free tiers are a gateway to users.

> This is good news for existing paying Heroku users.

I don't think it is, as a paying customer the free instances are such a useful part of the offering enabling us to have a free staging environment and test branches. As a small business, the free instances offset the excessive cost of Heroku.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#62
The public roadmap is a good idea but highlights how stale the product has become. https://github.com/heroku/roadmap/issues Only now researching adding Cloud Native Build Packs and HTTP2.

This will reaffirm for many the sense that Heroku is being dismantled from within. Feature sunsetting and removal of a free on-ramp doesn't help.

If you're looking for a production alternative to Heroku checkout Northflank.

https://northflank.com

https://northflank.com/docs/v1/application/migrate-from-hero...

https://northflank.com/heroku-pricing-comparison-and-reducti...

Comprehensive support for stateful, ephemeral and scheduled workloads. With a generous free developer tier including build, runtime, databases and cron jobs. Always happy to help teams migrate from Heroku.

(I'm a Northflank engineer + co-founder)

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#63

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

I relate to this.

> We appreciate Heroku’s legacy as a learning platform. Many students have their first experience with deploying an application into the wild on Heroku.

I'm one of those students. It's good that they will open up something free for students but I suspect it'll never be the same as just signing up and git push heroku master.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#64

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

It would be a poor business decision to exclude boot camp students from the upcoming student plan(s). That obviously doesn’t cover all types of learning/getting started though. I too mourn the loss of free, but also think it is the right decision for the times.

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Does anyone else find the roadmap to be really uninspiring? Every tasks seems either like housekeeping ("Migrate from Github OAuth to Github App Model") or like far-too-late table stakes ("Support HTTP/2"). What am I supposed to get inspired about on this page? For items that look like they ?might? be exciting, they seem hidden behind vagueness: "Official Cloud Native Buildpacks for Heroku languages" Contrast this wi…

I'm with you, but to play devil's advocate...

1. Heroku already has most of the features on Render's roadmap

2. It's clear Heroku (well, Salesforce) is going all-in on Enterprise, and Enterprise doesn't reward cool new features. They like stability (and jargon-y words).

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#66

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

Why do you think nobody has been able to fully emulate this experience?

It seems to me like there’d be a big market for an identical feature by feature Heroku “clone” with a more dedicated (from the outside looking in) team. No more features, no less, just exactly what Heroku did but without the intent to shut down. What’s preventing that from existing?

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#67
post #13

Link to the public roadmap: https://github.com/orgs/heroku/projects/130 Blog post says "Salesforce has never been more focused on Heroku's future." but this looks like they are just keeping the lights on by deprecating and keeping security up to date. Which isn't bad if the product has reached maturity but I wonder if these really are the most important features users ask for. Why does the feedback link on the blog p…

We are doing more than keeping the lights on. Purpose of the public roadmap (which just launched, we'll need some time to really get it right, I'm sure) is to show what we are working on. Any comment on the work around github integration safety as an example?

Watching for feedback here, but it's nice to know when I'm getting reachouts on product feedback directly who is touching base. Linked-in is great for that. But also, if you want to provide feedback we launched the roadmap on github if that's your preference. Trying to cover both kinds of customers.

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