It's good to see Firefox on top of this list. Is Protonmail usually accessed through web clients? I only use native iOS client and MacOS Mail with the Bridge app. Somehow I would expect Protonmail users to not use the web client so much, maybe I am wrong.
Protonmail Recommended Browsers
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#62I tried to log in with the DuckDuckGo browser on my tablet yesterday and could not because it is not in this list.
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#63I tried tutanota but it refuses to create an account at all over a VPN, or at least the VPNs I've used. At least it told me the reason it was a no go here instead of silently failing.
Anyone have any recommendations in this space?
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#65Protonmail and Brave do indeed seem like a good fit. Two somewhat sketchy, very commercial outfits that market themselves as more private than the competition and that will gladly break existing standards and practices to so. They also seem to attract surprisingly similar groups of users, including a larger-than-chance overlap. Protonmail, in particular, seems to have become a sort of running joke as the e-mail provi…
I see critics on Protonmail, but Brave is an absolut legit fully open-sourced project. Nothing Sketchy, and no the opt-in Crypto Program is also nothing sketcht.
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#66Why is safari/webkit not in there. It my understanding that it's the most privacy respecting browser in the area of finger printing.
Apple collects your browsing history, something which I have yet to find a good explanation for. https://apps.apple.com/zm/app/safari/id1146562112
Is it a privacy problem if Apple collects aggregate browsing history from iOS users?
And is this relevant to a thread about desktop browsers?
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#67Kind of funny that they included Pale Moon, IceCat, and SeaMonkey but not ungoogled-chromium, which imo is effectively the best compromise between privacy & a modern usable browser -- the only downside is the hardship of installing extensions manually.
And no Vivaldi mention
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#68I don't understand why Safari isn't on the "recommended" list. Doesn't it respect your privacy?
No, apple takes a copy of your browsing history, apparently “anonymously” and you can’t opt out. Don’t use it.
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#69Why is safari/webkit not in there. It my understanding that it's the most privacy respecting browser in the area of finger printing.
I now use ProtonMail as my backup email even though I am a long term paying customer. This is obviously a personal decision, but I consider Apple’s email service to be good enough in terms of privacy and usability. Also, every company I have worked for in the last decade uses Google Workplace and I find having work material in Google and my stuff in Apple’s ecosystem leads to a good separation of work vs. my life.
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#70Why do privacy folks recommend Brave? Isn't Brave a commercial, ad serving entity?
The short answer is that yes, Brave as a company does have some competing incentives which rightly should be constantly criticised, HOWEVER, Brave the browser performs well in multiple independent reviews of browser privacy. A nice one is https://privacytests.org/ , though there are also some academic studies which I will link if I find.