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Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by andreyk » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:27 PM UTC

paulcole wrote: post #53

andreyk wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well then it will never get boring, will it... Fair enough, it's just been striking to see how many of these sort of posts have been popping up. Like I said, it's still fun and worth a look. Perhaps as a blogger I am extra salty when relatively low effort stuff gets upvoted over things that take a lot of work to write (in some cases, those being things I have written). But hey, that's life.

Low effort stuff can (and often is) better and/or more entertaining than high effort stuff.

Can't argue with that!

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by whirlwin » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:28 PM UTC

powersnail wrote: post #35

DALL-E is still highly probabilistic in its judgement. For instance, in this article, it keeps putting "fire" in the the background on something that is likely to be on fire, rather than lighting up the person. I have a similar experience. In my own experiment, I can't get DALL-E to turn off the street lamp at a bus stop in the darkness. I've tried "no light", "broken street lamp", etc.; no use. Any mention of "stree…

I have experienced violent or harmful settings to be avoided by DALL-E. E.g. setting a person on fire. Same with drowning - seems to be impossible/hard to generate

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by MuffinFlavored » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:40 PM UTC

powersnail wrote: post #35

DALL-E is still highly probabilistic in its judgement. For instance, in this article, it keeps putting "fire" in the the background on something that is likely to be on fire, rather than lighting up the person. I have a similar experience. In my own experiment, I can't get DALL-E to turn off the street lamp at a bus stop in the darkness. I've tried "no light", "broken street lamp", etc.; no use. Any mention of "stree…

Is this "confirmed fixeD"/different in DALL-E 2?

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by BrutalCoding » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:40 PM UTC

powersnail wrote: post #35

DALL-E is still highly probabilistic in its judgement. For instance, in this article, it keeps putting "fire" in the the background on something that is likely to be on fire, rather than lighting up the person. I have a similar experience. In my own experiment, I can't get DALL-E to turn off the street lamp at a bus stop in the darkness. I've tried "no light", "broken street lamp", etc.; no use. Any mention of "stree…

Hmm, I haven’t tried DALL-E yet but Midjourney mentions that negative prompting dont tend to work well. See here: https://midjourney.gitbook.io/docs/resource-links/guide-to-p...

They got a solution for that, which is using their —no argument. https://midjourney.gitbook.io/docs/imagine-parameters#prompt...

I haven’t checked if DALL-E has that option too.

Otherwise, you could try other variations like:

street light, light pole, lamp pole, lamppost, street lamp, light standard, or lamp standard

I copied that from Wikipedia :)

Best of luck!

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by robocat » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:40 PM UTC

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #51

fifilura wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, what was interesting to see was that it didn't manage very well with the Abbey Road question. I had imagined that some parts of the training data would consist of the actual image, and it would find a good match for it somewhere deep into it's artificial consciousness.

It has no concept of The Beatles or Abbey Road or zebra crossings or perspective or creative composition in photography, so effectively it just mashes up some results from an image search. If it created something very close to the original it would be overfitting. So it flails around rather randomly in photos-of-Beatles+Zebra+Abbey Road space. The results are novel, but they're also monstrous, distorted, and unartist…

> unartistic

Says who? Maybe you don’t like the style, maybe it is derivative, but it is definitely artistic, as you allude to by saying it is novel. Monstrous and distorted can be a style.

“mathematical art, 1924, litography, abstract generative art” generates https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FanUkREXEAEH6su.jpg — Can you pick the influences? I can’t.

"low poly game asset, Cthulhu monster, 2000 video game, isometric view" generates https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FanTf3IXgAETece.jpg

I thought https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FanNq6sXkAENyU5.jpg was really interesting, because the LEGO logo is not a 100% faithful reproduction even though the LEGO logo is so ubiquitous - showing that the images are generated.

From a longer tweet thread by @fabianstelzer comparing DALL-E 2 vs Midjourney vs StableDiffusion: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1561019187451011074.html

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by randymy » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:51 PM UTC

Worth noting that DALL-E automatically “rejects attempts to create the likeness of any public figures, including celebrities". So, you wouldn't be able to get an image that included the 4 Liverpudlians. It does allow you to create fake faces. Might be fun to try and recreate Miles Davis Tutu, Aladdin Sane, Piano Man.

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by phonescreen_man » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:52 PM UTC

Interestingly related, I just used AI image generation to create my EP cover.. first I tried running luciddrains dall e 2 PyTorch implementation using the prompt “death by Tetris EP album cover 2022” unfortunately I am using a Mac Pro so the gpu was not able to work. Then I tried imagen PyTorch implementation and used same keyword. This time it was working with the CPU unfortunately 2 days in we had a power outage so I had something but nothing complete. So I fed the generated image into the google dream generator and got my album cover!

https://willsimpson.hearnow.com/

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by babyshake » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:56 PM UTC

powersnail wrote: post #35

DALL-E is still highly probabilistic in its judgement. For instance, in this article, it keeps putting "fire" in the the background on something that is likely to be on fire, rather than lighting up the person. I have a similar experience. In my own experiment, I can't get DALL-E to turn off the street lamp at a bus stop in the darkness. I've tried "no light", "broken street lamp", etc.; no use. Any mention of "stree…

I think DALL-E might be programmed to not depict violence, which is why it doesn't "like" rendering humans on fire.

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by tsimionescu » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 8:58 PM UTC

andreyk wrote: post #3

I wonder how long the novelty of DALL-E will persist. HN seems to upvote anything titled "I did X with DALL-E". This is a fun post, but it's not that interesting or surprising. Still worth a look don't get me wrong, but personally didn't learn anything new from it. (eg recreating the famous pink Floyd cover with "Outline of prism on a black background in the middle of scene splits a beam of light coming from the left…

To me the most interesting thing about the article was actually just how bad the results are. It's interesting that you picked the Dark side of the moon one, as to me that seemed by far the worse one - none of the pictures really resembled the simple geometry of the original. While I understand why recreating the Nevermind cover was difficult, it was surprising that recreating such a simple geometric pattern failed so spectacularly.

The only cover that really worked from my point of view was the Velvet Underground one, and perhaps the Rolling Stones one. Abbey Road came closer than what I thought it would, but was pretty bad ultimately, and the other three really had nothing usable.

Re: I recreated famous album covers with DALL-E

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Post by l33tman » Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 9:08 PM UTC

sgt101 wrote: post #8

Look, it's trained on these images. It's really great and cool and all - but it's retrieving things that it was trained on. Show me something original it did.

None of the AI generators retrieve things they were trained on, they don't work that way. Everything is original. However our definition of "original" might vary a bit, but so it will vary for any work of art any human artist do as well, as they are also trained on the same images. In the end, a lawsuit and a courtroom might have to decide if by chance someone or some AI creates a picture used commercially that seems similar to someone else's trademark or copyright.

Most of the images I've generated using Dalle 2 feels completely original. Just have a look at the reddit r/dalle2 and I'm pretty sure you'll also decide they're "original works".