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Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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glimcat wrote: post #58
ugh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he means white balance. And since both cameras don’t output raw files Lightroom won’t help you (much) with that. Besides: Consumer cameras should generally have a good automatic white balance since the vast majority of people will never bother to manually tweak. That whole sensor/lens mixup is probably an honest mistake. He was talking about software vs hardware and not really going so much into detail as tha…

RAW is good, but you can still get some benefit in crappy cellphone JPGs. I've had to make batches of personnel photos taken with an iPhone look presentable for a web page on several occasions. A few seconds to set the white balance and normalize the orientation and scale makes a significant difference. It doesn't make it into a great photo, but nothing short of going back with an SLR is going to do that. Also part o…

Sure, there is some room to play but with JPG it’s possible that some photos are not recoverable. If you get the raw output auto white balance is basically completely irrelevant (beyond convenience). No matter how badly the white balance screwed up, it’s always possible to recover (since it’s all software and you are working with the original input data).

But I don’t think it’s necessary to go that far. Even a budget DSLR that is perfectly capable of shooting raw should have great auto white balance: Most people don’t want to endlessly tweak photos. Better auto white balance means better photos, even if theoretically everything could be fixed in post.

Oh, and just because smartphone cameras are nowhere near as good as DSLRs doesn’t mean it’s not meaningful to compare them with each other, doesn’t mean one can’t be much better than another one.

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by glimcat »

ugh wrote: post #61
glimcat wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RAW is good, but you can still get some benefit in crappy cellphone JPGs. I've had to make batches of personnel photos taken with an iPhone look presentable for a web page on several occasions. A few seconds to set the white balance and normalize the orientation and scale makes a significant difference. It doesn't make it into a great photo, but nothing short of going back with an SLR is going to do that. Also part o…

Sure, there is some room to play but with JPG it’s possible that some photos are not recoverable. If you get the raw output auto white balance is basically completely irrelevant (beyond convenience). No matter how badly the white balance screwed up, it’s always possible to recover (since it’s all software and you are working with the original input data). But I don’t think it’s necessary to go that far. Even a budget…

"it’s always possible to recover"

Only if the initial exposure was good.

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by andyl »

bgarbiak wrote: post #51
icarus_drowning wrote: post #39

Is it just me, or is anyone else incredibly impressed with The Verge? Their reviews are incredibly detailed, and yet they still manage to make extremely interesting, short, and informative video reviews for many products. Add to that the fact that the site, at least to me, is absolutely gorgeous, and I think I've found my new favorite gadget site.

Agree, although I have to add it has some terrible performance issues. The site, especially the front page, is hardly usable on slower PCs (netbooks, for example). I guess all these custom fonts are at fault here.

Agreed - horrible performance on a full-blown laptop. Could barely scroll the page.

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by ugh »

glimcat wrote: post #62
ugh wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, there is some room to play but with JPG it’s possible that some photos are not recoverable. If you get the raw output auto white balance is basically completely irrelevant (beyond convenience). No matter how badly the white balance screwed up, it’s always possible to recover (since it’s all software and you are working with the original input data). But I don’t think it’s necessary to go that far. Even a budget…

"it’s always possible to recover" Only if the initial exposure was good.

See, I wanted to mention that but completely forgot about it while writing. (Still, you might have been a little more charitable with me. I think the context made it pretty clear what I was talking about.)

I was only talking about color, not exposure. (Of course there is only so much white balance can do – but if you get the raw data you can do just as much with the color as the camera, heck, you can even throw more processing power at the problem than the camera ever could.)

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

canes123456 wrote: post #48
juliano_q wrote: post #2

Quite impressive. 10 for performance and software (iPhone 4S received 8 and 9). The device seems to be very good, but ICS is the star here. I am eagerly waiting to receive the update at my Nexus S.

In the video the phone looked like there is still some lag compared to an iPhone.

Where? Given the nature of past Android I'm inclined to believe it's possible, but I didn't see even a flinch in that video...

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by gcb »

And if you bought ANY dock (desktop, car) for your other 200 nexus models, get ready to buy a new one for the latest one.

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

ugh wrote: post #38
polshaw wrote: post #33

I can't believe how much everything is still framed around the iphone. I think its crazy to call this phone just 'competetive' with the iphone 4S; especially the screen-- it is clearly a significant step up IMO. ICS is surely at a point where it can, currently, safely be considered to be ahead of iOS- especially in its unadulterated 'nexus' form. And whilst pentile isn't perfect, its 720p FFS. If that wasn't enough O…

I don’t know. The screens seem a wash to me and whether one is better than the other depends more on taste than specs. I personally don’t like how those OLED screens look (I like their contrast and blacks, don’t like their colors) and I also dislike PenTile immensely. The screen being larger is actually a negative point for me. I guess it would still be alright for me but only just. On the whole I get better contrast…

No offense, but did you read the review? Every single review, including this one, has called the complaints about saturation and Pentile effectively silly at this pixel density. Even the pixel density is barely different than the iPhone, a tiny percent. The size, I'm totally there with you though.

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by ugh »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #67
ugh wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know. The screens seem a wash to me and whether one is better than the other depends more on taste than specs. I personally don’t like how those OLED screens look (I like their contrast and blacks, don’t like their colors) and I also dislike PenTile immensely. The screen being larger is actually a negative point for me. I guess it would still be alright for me but only just. On the whole I get better contrast…

No offense, but did you read the review? Every single review, including this one, has called the complaints about saturation and Pentile effectively silly at this pixel density. Even the pixel density is barely different than the iPhone, a tiny percent. The size, I'm totally there with you though.

I have looked at screens with a similar pixel density and didn’t like it. I haven’t seen this phone yet but I plan to.

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by FiddlerClamp »

icarus_drowning wrote: post #39

Is it just me, or is anyone else incredibly impressed with The Verge? Their reviews are incredibly detailed, and yet they still manage to make extremely interesting, short, and informative video reviews for many products. Add to that the fact that the site, at least to me, is absolutely gorgeous, and I think I've found my new favorite gadget site.

I love the fact that the reviews seem to be fanboy (girl) and drama-free, and that the devices are evaluated fairly on their merits, regardless of their sources. The reviews are detailed enough to be useful, while more-detailed reviews like the multi-pagers at Ars and Anandtech can be overkill, for me.

Re: Galaxy Nexus Review

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

ugh wrote: post #68
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offense, but did you read the review? Every single review, including this one, has called the complaints about saturation and Pentile effectively silly at this pixel density. Even the pixel density is barely different than the iPhone, a tiny percent. The size, I'm totally there with you though.

I have looked at screens with a similar pixel density and didn’t like it. I haven’t seen this phone yet but I plan to.

What other 720p 4.5" Pentile displays have you seen?
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