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Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by asah »

unixhero wrote: post #44
asah wrote: post #15

Meh - I was excited by JWO but it now looks like self-checkout will win because it works pretty well these days, and it handles all the corner cases including product sold by weight, large items, identical-looking items (common in grocery), etc. With self-checkout, you don't need an account which is crucial for travelers. Self-checkout also supports cash for the unbanked. I've tried SC in multiple countries, just hit…

I avoid using self checkout because I don't want to perform work that ought to be performed by the business. When did I become an employee?

When you traveled to the store, walked the aisles etc. For no hassle, use ecommerce/delivery.

Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by [deleted] »

paganel wrote: post #39
asah wrote: post #15

Meh - I was excited by JWO but it now looks like self-checkout will win because it works pretty well these days, and it handles all the corner cases including product sold by weight, large items, identical-looking items (common in grocery), etc. With self-checkout, you don't need an account which is crucial for travelers. Self-checkout also supports cash for the unbanked. I've tried SC in multiple countries, just hit…

What's wrong with the usual check-out process? It also creates extra jobs for people that, most probably, would have difficulties finding new ones (some of the lady cashiers at the super-market close to me are well into their 50s). Plus, it forces you to have a little human interaction, that hasn't killed anyone, quite the contrary. More human interactions, even with strangers, less "what pills should I take to make…

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Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by asah »

paganel wrote: post #39
asah wrote: post #15

Meh - I was excited by JWO but it now looks like self-checkout will win because it works pretty well these days, and it handles all the corner cases including product sold by weight, large items, identical-looking items (common in grocery), etc. With self-checkout, you don't need an account which is crucial for travelers. Self-checkout also supports cash for the unbanked. I've tried SC in multiple countries, just hit…

What's wrong with the usual check-out process? It also creates extra jobs for people that, most probably, would have difficulties finding new ones (some of the lady cashiers at the super-market close to me are well into their 50s). Plus, it forces you to have a little human interaction, that hasn't killed anyone, quite the contrary. More human interactions, even with strangers, less "what pills should I take to make…

While we're at it, let's add staff to "checkout" code from source control. :-)

Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by deepdriver »

ALittleLight wrote: post #42
thrashh wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is responsible for representing any of their background but you work with a diverse group of people because different people bring different ideas to the table You cannot do focus groups for issues you don’t even know about. Race isn’t the only factor here — someone who grew up on a farm is going to have different things to say than someone that grew up in the city.

My impression is that you are trying to be racially sensitive or politically correct. You are using terms like DEI and saying it is important. But what you are writing comes across as very racist. "We have to have a black person on the team because black people think different!" No, your race and gender don't determine your beliefs or perspectives. The way to find out what different groups will think about your produ…

>You are using terms like DEI and saying it is important. But what you are writing comes across as very racist.

This as DEI working as designed. The latent condescension in the corporate propaganda is apparent and offensive when verbalized. If you speak it aloud like the GP did, you are chastised. In a professional setting that's an effective humiliation ritual. It strongly discourages you from speaking up again in the future. Eventually you notice more flaws in the DEI sales pitch, but by then you've learned your lesson. You stay quiet. Thus the worker is controlled and the corporate propaganda is shielded from criticism.

As posted below, Amazon has been caught measuring workplace diversity and correlating it negatively with unionization and worker solidarity. To them, forced diversity is a net benefit. But the downsides of forced diversity are never to be mentioned by the workers themselves, who are irredeemable racists if they say what Amazon internally acknowledges to be true:

https://archive.ph/1khJw

Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by unixhero »

asah wrote: post #61
unixhero wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I avoid using self checkout because I don't want to perform work that ought to be performed by the business. When did I become an employee?

When you traveled to the store, walked the aisles etc. For no hassle, use ecommerce/delivery.

I agree and start to do this always now.

Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by whimsicalism »

paganel wrote: post #57
vgatherps wrote: post #49

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I feel like we should be slightly more ambitious with ensuring the wellbeing of people than keeping around pointless jobs? At the least, if we're stuck on the government ensuring that there are jobs of some sort, it seems like jobs say more actively better the community (say library staff, community center staff, etc) would be much more fulfilling?

> around pointless jobs? "Pointless jobs" for whom? It definitely puts food on the table for said persons' families, that is definitely not "pointless". Or do you think a lady in her 50s will just hop into any job at her discretion? (no, "community stuff" will just not cut it, you need at least a university diploma for that). And this comes after those discussions on the tens of thousands of pointless jobs inside FAA…

If we are compelling companies to pay for people that they would otherwise not, that seems like a job without use.

Give people welfare without giving them jobs that are drags on progress.

Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by ojhughes »

asah wrote: post #15

Meh - I was excited by JWO but it now looks like self-checkout will win because it works pretty well these days, and it handles all the corner cases including product sold by weight, large items, identical-looking items (common in grocery), etc. With self-checkout, you don't need an account which is crucial for travelers. Self-checkout also supports cash for the unbanked. I've tried SC in multiple countries, just hit…

Decathlon has RFID based, no-scan self checkout. You put all the items in a bin then pay and leave. Worked really well the few times I’ve used it

Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by true_religion »

t0mas88 wrote: post #32
throwaway290 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS appears to be an umbrella for all the B2B stuff that is not B2C/Amazon itself, and in many cases is not directly "web" (see private 5G networks, Snow, Ground Station, etc.)

Hmm, I thought infrastructure components were AWS branded and business services Amazon branded. Like AWS EC2 vs Amazon Quicksight. But then this probably should have been under the Amazon brand so maybe they have another split.

This is not Amazon branded due to optics. Amazon itself is also a store, so it’s competition doesn’t to buy something with the Amazon brand name on it for their key operations.

On the other hand, they may already use AWS which feels like “a company owned by Amazon” rather than Amazon itself.

Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by majou »

asah wrote: post #59
jsolson wrote: post #27

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I can't really fathom how you can include "scan, scan, scan, weight, scan, scan, scan, checkout, touch my credit card, go" in your comment and consider that comparable to "leave." For routine grocery shopping the technology is incredible. That said, I'll grant that it's also creepy AF. The bigger issue for me, though, is that Amazon is so fucking awful at physical retail inventory management (both the selection of it…

The selection is directly tied to the JWO technology which almost by definition gets confused by brands whose product line labels (e.g. flavors) are too similar, which is the common case not the exception. Sure, they have the same price but then the breaks automated reordering from the DC. The only solution is to not carry variations of a product, which then leads to crappy selection. Fine for a convenience store not…

Don't the cameras pay close attention to the grabbing of the product?

Re: AWS Just Walk Out Technology

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Post by daveoc64 »

tbrownaw wrote: post #6

> 60 percent of respondents state that long wait times to check out are a major concern while shopping in a store. The report also revealed that 80 percent of retail executive respondents believe that smart checkout is one of the most important solutions to invest in over the next five years. The local Kroger instances here have these handheld things you can use to scan items as you put them in your cart rather than…

This is extremely popular in the UK - all of the major supermarkets offer it.

Some of them also let you use your own smartphone to do the scanning.

It became more popular in the pandemic, as only interacting with your own device reduces the amount of contact you have with other people and things they have been touching.

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